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DISSAPATE (pvp2 troll deckout) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57015.msg1170334#msg1170334
« on: December 09, 2014, 03:28:47 am »
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Re: DISSAPATE (pvp2 troll deckout) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57015.msg1170335#msg1170335
« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2014, 03:31:57 am »
i see what you're doing there. You're kind of screwed if they can a) destroy all your shields b) bypass those shields (momentum, spell damage, poison, etc) c) Destroy Eternity d) Also have a no deck out deck.
Why use Deja instead of Photon? Maybe some Antimatters to survive damage early game?
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Re: DISSAPATE (pvp2 troll deckout) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57015.msg1170336#msg1170336
« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2014, 03:34:04 am »
i see what you're doing there. You're kind of screwed if they can a) destroy all your shields b) bypass those shields (momentum, spell damage, poison, etc) c) Destroy Eternity d) Also have a no deck out deck.
Why use Deja instead of Photon? Maybe some Antimatters to survive damage early game?

deja so that i can put it in the duo decks section. (whenever i post there no one replies)

i should probably add some antimatters. 3 maybe?
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Re: DISSAPATE (pvp2 troll deckout) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57015.msg1170337#msg1170337
« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2014, 03:35:48 am »
i see what you're doing there. You're kind of screwed if they can a) destroy all your shields b) bypass those shields (momentum, spell damage, poison, etc) c) Destroy Eternity d) Also have a no deck out deck.
Why use Deja instead of Photon? Maybe some Antimatters to survive damage early game?

deja so that i can put it in the duo decks section. (whenever i post there no one replies)

i should probably add some antimatters. 3 maybe?
lolwut? You have deja in there so you can post in duo decks where no one replies? Seems a little counterintuitive...
With so many people playing PDials or SoW Aether, this is pretty hard countered in the current meta.
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Re: DISSAPATE (pvp2 troll deckout) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57015.msg1170338#msg1170338
« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2014, 03:41:07 am »
i see what you're doing there. You're kind of screwed if they can a) destroy all your shields b) bypass those shields (momentum, spell damage, poison, etc) c) Destroy Eternity d) Also have a no deck out deck.
Why use Deja instead of Photon? Maybe some Antimatters to survive damage early game?

deja so that i can put it in the duo decks section. (whenever i post there no one replies)

i should probably add some antimatters. 3 maybe?
lolwut? You have deja in there so you can post in duo decks where no one replies? Seems a little counterintuitive...
With so many people playing PDials or SoW Aether, this is pretty hard countered in the current meta.

no, as in no-one replies if i put it in the trio decks section.

also reverse time duplicating deja vus can actually deal a decent ammount of damage.
i mean, it's slow as all balls but still
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Re: DISSAPATE (pvp2 troll deckout) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57015.msg1170340#msg1170340
« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2014, 03:49:09 am »
No pls. I think Diss Field + QT works better. Let's say you're blocking 23 cells. With diss shield you use 69 quanta. With Diss field you use 23. Granted, it is more suspect able to black hole, but oh well.
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Re: DISSAPATE (pvp2 troll deckout) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57015.msg1170379#msg1170379
« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2014, 10:58:46 am »
No pls. I think Diss Field + QT works better. Let's say you're blocking 23 cells. With diss shield you use 69 quanta. With Diss field you use 23. Granted, it is more suspect able to black hole, but oh well.

diss shield still uses only 23 quanta. But you`ll need 23 pillars to keep up, while the field will allow you to use 8.
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Re: DISSAPATE (pvp2 troll deckout) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57015.msg1170388#msg1170388
« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2014, 12:03:24 pm »
No pls. I think Diss Field + QT works better. Let's say you're blocking 23 cells. With diss shield you use 69 quanta. With Diss field you use 23. Granted, it is more suspect able to black hole, but oh well.

diss shield still uses only 23 quanta. But you`ll need 23 pillars to keep up, while the field will allow you to use 8.
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Re: DISSAPATE (pvp2 troll deckout) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57015.msg1170472#msg1170472
« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2014, 08:11:43 pm »
No pls. I think Diss Field + QT works better. Let's say you're blocking 23 cells. With diss shield you use 69 quanta. With Diss field you use 23. Granted, it is more suspect able to black hole, but oh well.

diss shield still uses only 23 quanta. But you`ll need 23 pillars to keep up, while the field will allow you to use 8.
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Diss Shield = 3 damage for 1  :entropy - Diss Field = 1 Damage for 1  :rainbow. A field full o 23 cells costs 23 quanta with Diss Field, while it costs 8 quanta with Diss Shield. It's much easier to run a duo here.
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Re: DISSAPATE (pvp2 troll deckout) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57015.msg1170474#msg1170474
« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2014, 08:24:51 pm »
Diss Shield = 3 damage for 1  :entropy - Diss Field = 1 Damage for 1  :rainbow. A field full o 23 cells costs 23 quanta with Diss Field, while it costs 8 quanta with Diss Shield. It's much easier to run a duo here.

No, 23 creatures drain 23 quanta even with unupped shield. They deal 1 damage each, and the shield has to block every single attack by using one quanta.
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Re: DISSAPATE (pvp2 troll deckout) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57015.msg1170493#msg1170493
« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2014, 11:46:22 pm »
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Diss Shield = 3 damage for 1  :entropy - Diss Field = 1 Damage for 1  :rainbow. A field full o 23 cells costs 23 quanta with Diss Field, while it costs 8 quanta with Diss Shield. It's much easier to run a duo here.

No, 23 creatures drain 23 quanta even with unupped shield. They deal 1 damage each, and the shield has to block every single attack by using one quanta.
Ah, gotcha. Thanks for clarification.
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Re: DISSAPATE (pvp2 troll deckout) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57015.msg1170523#msg1170523
« Reply #11 on: December 10, 2014, 06:46:58 am »
changed it to q pillars and it works much better.
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