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Darkness/Fractal deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4281.msg42309#msg42309
« on: March 22, 2010, 06:26:07 am »
Most definitely not the most efficient deck ever, but I find it quite fun.

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Mark of Aether.

Eclipse/Vamp Dagger optional. Pest/Dusk/Fractal upgrades optional (Albeit suggested) as well.
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Re: Darkness/Fractal deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4281.msg48858#msg48858
« Reply #1 on: April 05, 2010, 04:23:41 pm »
What do you think about add two drain life's cards? This cards can stop the enemy's creatures and help you to finish the game with your absorved quanta.

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Re: Darkness/Fractal deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4281.msg50050#msg50050
« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2010, 02:55:14 am »
Quit the Vamp dagger and the vampires add 4 drain life

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Re: Darkness/Fractal deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4281.msg50157#msg50157
« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2010, 09:04:38 am »
Quit the Vamp dagger and the vampires add 4 drain life
I disagree. Fractal-ing the pests is a good idea, but Fractaling the Vampires means more damage by far. I believe you should add in 2 Drain Lives and take out 1 or 2 Aether Towers. With the mark of aether they are not needed so greatly for the Fractal.

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Re: Darkness/Fractal deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4281.msg50199#msg50199
« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2010, 12:05:53 pm »
I agree with Hobnob you don't need that many Aether towers just for Fractal because after 1 or 2 fractals those aether quantum will just be useless.

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Re: Darkness/Fractal deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4281.msg50759#msg50759
« Reply #5 on: April 09, 2010, 02:25:43 pm »
Here is the version I've been working on for a couple of days.  It is meant for AI5 farming and focuses around quantum denial.

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I had drain life in here but it often didn't help so I took it out and replaced it with steel which helped a lot but could also result in bad first draws.  That is when I decided to simplify this as much as humanly possible and just focus on shutting down the opponent before he gets started.  If you have trouble with that because the AI moves too fast then just pump out more vampires than he has creatures and you will win.

This also makes a good pvp deck

ThomasMarik

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Re: Darkness/Fractal deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4281.msg54147#msg54147
« Reply #6 on: April 16, 2010, 11:07:14 am »
I agree with Hobnob you don't need that many Aether towers just for Fractal because after 1 or 2 fractals those aether quantum will just be useless.
The amount of aether pillars is so you're more likely to draw them; If you have too few, you won't get enough, and you'll likely be crippled.

What do you think about add two drain life's cards? This cards can stop the enemy's creatures and help you to finish the game with your absorved quanta.
I'm trying not to make the deck too large; It needs to stay midsized, elsewise it will not be as efficient, and drain life is a bit pointless due to the fact that a large amount of half bloods with light or life quanta have a reflective/mirror or emerald/jade shield.
Quit the Vamp dagger and the vampires add 4 drain life
Getting the quanta quickly is a problem and it is thusforth unreliable, so I use vampires instead.

The Vampire dagger isn't required, as I said, but it helps; Especially if you get it early, due to the fact that it's 6 damage for 2 quanta.

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This is what I'm currently running VS. Level 5 and (Occasionally) PvP. (I will add a second stilletto when I get one, removing an obsidian pillar) (I may, also, add 2 steals and/or change my dusks for steals.)
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Re: Darkness/Fractal deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4281.msg472036#msg472036
« Reply #7 on: March 18, 2012, 05:24:57 pm »
This is my unupped version I've been using against the AI3s.

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It's been working quite well.  You can usually lock them out by using Fractal on Devourers before they do anything too scary.  Then it's only a matter of time before you Fractal the Vampires and that's that.  I get a lot of Elemental Mastery wins with this deck.  It doesn't stand a chance vs AI4s though and has trouble with rainbows in general.  I didn't like Drain Life quite enough although I've taken 1-2 in and out several times.  Drain and Dusk Mantle weren't as useful overall as the one Dimensional Shift.  Maybe I should put my Stiletto in but anything I'd cut would make the combo less consistent.

I think it's important to play a turn 2 Devourer because if you can then you'll almost always have plenty of Darkness quanta by the time you're ready to Fractal.  That is why I play all Dark Pendulums.  I like my Pillarbase more than the other lists I've seen.

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Enjoy!

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Re: Darkness/Fractal deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4281.msg472043#msg472043
« Reply #8 on: March 18, 2012, 05:32:54 pm »
This is my unupped version I've been using against the AI3s.

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It's been working quite well.  You can usually lock them out by using Fractal on Devourers before they do anything too scary.  Then it's only a matter of time before you Fractal the Vampires and that's that.  I get a lot of Elemental Mastery wins with this deck.  It doesn't stand a chance vs AI4s though and has trouble with rainbows in general.  I didn't like Drain Life quite enough although I've taken 1-2 in and out several times.  Drain and Dusk Mantle weren't as useful overall as the one Dimensional Shift.  Maybe I should put my Stiletto in but anything I'd cut would make the combo less consistent.

I think it's important to play a turn 2 Devourer because if you can then you'll almost always have plenty of Darkness quanta by the time you're ready to Fractal.  That is why I play all Dark Pendulums.  I like my Pillarbase more than the other lists I've seen.

This is the optimal music to listen to while playing this deck:


Enjoy!
Welcome to the forums... and did you notice that this thread is two years old? Thus, no pendulums at the time, and certainly no reason for posting in this thread- you could have posted on a more recent devtal thread or even started your own if you wanted to post your build. Your enthusiasm is good, but please pay a little bit more attention next time.
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Re: Darkness/Fractal deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4281.msg472044#msg472044
« Reply #9 on: March 18, 2012, 05:38:04 pm »
This is my unupped version I've been using against the AI3s.

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It's been working quite well.  You can usually lock them out by using Fractal on Devourers before they do anything too scary.  Then it's only a matter of time before you Fractal the Vampires and that's that.  I get a lot of Elemental Mastery wins with this deck.  It doesn't stand a chance vs AI4s though and has trouble with rainbows in general.

I think it's really important to play turn 2 Devourer.  If you can, you'll usually have plenty of Darkness quanta when you're ready to Fractal.  That is why I play all Dark Pendulums.  I like my Pillarbase more than the other lists I've seen.

This is the optimal music to listen to while playing this deck:


Enjoy!
quite the necromancer you are eh?

did you notice this thread is from 2010? do people even see that nowadays?

nevermind, i will tell you what i think about that deck of yours:

drop those pendulums. You will never need that much  :darkness quanta from them, what you need is  :aether pillars so you can fractal your devourers ASAP. your devourers should be your main  :darkness generator anyway

drop the shield, just one is not very useful, trade some of the pendulums you should take out for another steal and add drain lifes to either kill early creatures that escaped the quanta lock or as a finisher for late-game

finally adding nightfall should also be considered as it will give your deck much needed firepower to all your devourers in play and also your vampires for better chance of EM :D

in the end it should look like this:
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Re: Darkness/Fractal deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4281.msg472049#msg472049
« Reply #10 on: March 18, 2012, 05:47:00 pm »
Actually, I read the whole "read this before posting" post.  Did you?
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Furthermore, I explained that I don't like Aether pillars because they don't let you play a turn 2 Devourer, which makes the deck run much, much smoother overall.  Give my version a try, I dare you.

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Re: Darkness/Fractal deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4281.msg472053#msg472053
« Reply #11 on: March 18, 2012, 05:53:59 pm »
Actually, I read the whole "read this before posting" post.  Did you?
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Furthermore, I explained that I don't like Aether pillars because they don't let you play a turn 2 Devourer, which makes the deck run much, much smoother overall.  Give my version a try, I dare you.
Better thread to have done this in:
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The pestal/devtal build certainly isn't new. Anyways, I applaud that you came up with it on your own, but I'd agree that the dimensional shield is useless with only 1- dusk mantle works much better here. Why not try a mix of pendulums and pillars? You can still get the turn one devourer, anyways.
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