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Speedy Standards https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48705.msg1063126#msg1063126
« on: April 23, 2013, 03:33:17 pm »
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Preliminary testings shows: 4.96 average ttw.

4 ttw * 3
5 ttw * 21
7 ttw * 1

(expected to drop a bit anytime soon)

Ttw was calculated only in games where AI had almost no CC/influence, but still didn't let me wheel SoB free. (AI1)
This mean, it doesn't show an actual AI3 speed, but just a calculated speed.
I'm going to run 100 testing, and see what the average TTW is.

I'm searching for a deck breaking the 5 TTW barrier, so I ask you to link me one if you think it does.
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Re: Speedy Standards https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48705.msg1063131#msg1063131
« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2013, 04:11:10 pm »
Loving this deck, it is a bit slower against CC based decks, averaging 7/8 per turn. 
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Re: Speedy Standards https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48705.msg1063137#msg1063137
« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2013, 04:45:38 pm »
I'm too lazy to search for the links, but Frankenshard and "Damselfly from hell" and FreeBow all seems to get TTWs at 4-5 very often against 100hp opponent.
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Re: Speedy Standards https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48705.msg1063141#msg1063141
« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2013, 04:52:56 pm »
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Re: Speedy Standards https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48705.msg1063147#msg1063147
« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2013, 05:36:47 pm »
Frankenshard for me regularly gets 5+TTW, you pretty much need to lose the initial draw and get a perfect starting hand with no opposing CC to 4TW.

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Re: Speedy Standards https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48705.msg1063152#msg1063152
« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2013, 06:09:13 pm »
Tangentially related, but I've been wanting to put together updated stats threads for AI3/AI4 for a while, since the most recent actual TTW studies were like five patches ago. If any of you are testing these things against AI3 for TTW, please do me a favor and write down your stats if it's not too much trouble. Maybe we can start new TTW studies here.

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Re: Speedy Standards https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48705.msg1066347#msg1066347
« Reply #6 on: May 04, 2013, 11:19:37 am »
100 games tested:

Average TTW: 5.11

4 ttw: 8
5 ttw: 74
6 ttw: 17
7 ttw: 1

As of now, this is the fastest non-Nova/non-Immo deck.
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Re: Speedy Standards https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48705.msg1074256#msg1074256
« Reply #7 on: May 25, 2013, 01:43:04 pm »
100 games tested:

Average TTW: 5.11

4 ttw: 8
5 ttw: 74
6 ttw: 17
7 ttw: 1

As of now, this is the fastest non-Nova/non-Immo deck.

Not a single game lost?

This seems like a very good deck to grind level 3.

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Re: Speedy Standards https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48705.msg1074269#msg1074269
« Reply #8 on: May 25, 2013, 02:21:57 pm »
100 games tested:

Average TTW: 5.11

4 ttw: 8
5 ttw: 74
6 ttw: 17
7 ttw: 1

As of now, this is the fastest non-Nova/non-Immo deck.

Not a single game lost?

This seems like a very good deck to grind level 3.

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Re: Speedy Standards https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48705.msg1074272#msg1074272
« Reply #9 on: May 25, 2013, 02:26:46 pm »
Those are probably real games, actually, given the difference in ttw stats. And not losing a game in 100 isn't unusual for a deck like this.
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Re: Speedy Standards https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48705.msg1074322#msg1074322
« Reply #10 on: May 25, 2013, 06:56:43 pm »
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