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Blitz 'EM - Sky Blitzing Elemental Mastery - Elder deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20415.msg259154#msg259154
« on: January 28, 2011, 09:21:01 pm »
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I was messing around with sky blitz and found a deck that might be faster with equal EM as USEM.  This deck will be great once damselflies are buffed in 1.27.

*advantages*
-Better against elders with wings
-Better against some of the stallish decks because it has the ability to pick and choose when it damages
-More damage cards/damage overall with dive/sky blitz
-long bow can hit through being frozen
-more fun overall to play than USEM :P

*disadvatages*
-More clicks = slower overall time than USEM?
-CC has the ability to mess with quanta production, but damselflies give you your effective tower split

Happy farming!
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Re: Blitz 'EM - Sky Blitzing Elemental Mastery - Elder deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20415.msg259161#msg259161
« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2011, 09:26:53 pm »
The game already provides turns to win and time to win statistics automatically for you -- those are more than enough.

Simply conduct a 50 game sample on the main game (NOT THE TRAINER). Take note of whether or not you EM, the turns to win, and the time taken to win. Then take the following statistics:

Average number of turns to win
Average amount of time to win
Number of EMs
Number of losses

Take those and make a post in the v1.26 Turns to Win Study thread (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,17903.0.html) (read the first post on the first page for instructions on how to post your results). If the preliminary data is comparatively fast, then someone will eventually pick it up and start testing the deck for a 200 game sample.
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Re: Blitz 'EM - Sky Blitzing Elemental Mastery - Elder deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20415.msg267287#msg267287
« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2011, 10:54:17 pm »
This deck is better now that the damselfly got buffed.

Re: Blitz 'EM - Sky Blitzing Elemental Mastery - Elder deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20415.msg267311#msg267311
« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2011, 11:13:20 pm »
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This deck is better now that the damselfly got buffed.
Who to the what where?  *goes to check*

Costless, neat!

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Re: Blitz 'EM - Sky Blitzing Elemental Mastery - Elder deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20415.msg273166#msg273166
« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2011, 09:15:02 am »
I played the trainer with this for awhile tonight, EXTREMELY effective with the damselfly buff. I am very anxious for 1.27 to come out so this deck can be used for score!

Here are some ideas for variants I would also like to test:

The Bald Eagle:
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And as long as I'm bored messing around with names I'll call the first post: The Original Blitz 'EM

If anyone has any discussion on the deck or name change suggestions, please let me know.


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Re: Blitz 'EM - Sky Blitzing Elemental Mastery - Elder deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20415.msg273234#msg273234
« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2011, 02:15:59 pm »
Is it faster than USEM now?

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Re: Blitz 'EM - Sky Blitzing Elemental Mastery - Elder deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20415.msg273304#msg273304
« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2011, 05:26:01 pm »
Is it faster than USEM now?
I'm not sure.  It is definitely close.  It may beat USEM in terms of TTW, but it is probably slower overall in terms of time because of more clicking.  I will wait until 1.27 is officially released before I do 50 games of each. 

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Re: Blitz 'EM - Sky Blitzing Elemental Mastery - Elder deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20415.msg273307#msg273307
« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2011, 05:31:17 pm »
Is it faster than USEM now?
I'll try it in the trainer, but I doubt it.  Due to USEM being a mono, it is inherently more efficient as a grinder even versus slightly faster decks.

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Re: Blitz 'EM - Sky Blitzing Elemental Mastery - Elder deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20415.msg273334#msg273334
« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2011, 06:34:58 pm »
Is it faster than USEM now?
I'll try it in the trainer, but I doubt it.  Due to USEM being a mono, it is inherently more efficient as a grinder even versus slightly faster decks.
In this case, the fact that USEM is a mono and this is a duo does not create such a huge efficiency discrepancy since the damselflies are costless.  Meaning, the huge advantage that USEM has from pushing out 1-2 frogs on the 1st turn, is countered by the fact that this deck can push out damage as well, which exponentially increases its chance to push out more on the following turn.

The question is really, will the fragility of the damselflies hold up to become more efficient?  Or can they be protected in a manner which allows the damage/utility advantage it has over USEM to be maintained?

Again, my thought is that some of the variants may in terms of TTW, but not in overall clicks or time per game.  Certainly, the ability to add some PC, CC, or even a fog shield without greatly changing the deck makeup might help to reduce player frustration vs. AI3s.

It seems to me that the best versions include the Owl's Eye because the deck runs into alot of problems when it tries to outrush scarabs and otyughs.  Might even consider a 3rd OE variant as such:

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P.S.  Bald Eagle is a really boring name and needs to be changed if it turns out to be the quickest.

 

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