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another take on the deathstalker https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34908.msg439984#msg439984
« on: December 18, 2011, 08:39:10 am »
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This is my take on the deathstalker. There were many decks posted in dead topics on maximizing poison damage that look similar to this. since i started playing about a month ago, im sure it has been done before. if you have done it then take credit.

Here is how it works: nightfall to get the stalkers going, mummies for damage while waiting for the stalker/nightfall combo, steal is for CC weapons, sheilds, and depending on the deck, empathic bonds.

this version has eclipse's only becuase i didn't want to buy more nightfalls. the one extra point of damage doesn't really make a difference against AI3, which is what i had in mind, but operating off of pend's that 1 extra darkness quanta often means nightfall is two rounds quicker then eclipse.

I chose mummies over poison (the card) becuase 5/3 is cheap solid damage while waiting to play nightfall and it also benifits from nightfall, whereas poison just adds another two counters, or one attack from 1 scorpion. it also lets you put a creature on the board if there is an early oty, and the AI usually targets the mummies over the scorpions for CC.

Suggestions/Comments welcome!
EDIT: W-37, L-13, majority of wins in turns 8(9), 9(10), and 10(7)

SIDEBAR: can the stats tracker be used to record not against FG's? Manually recording W/L TTW is a drag.

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Re: another take on the deathstalker https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34908.msg440013#msg440013
« Reply #1 on: December 18, 2011, 12:53:43 pm »
looks a decentish build.. maybe replace 1 or 2 steals with something else, 4 seems slightly heavy, but decent enough build..
For ttw its not really a drag, i do it with a piece of paper and just write something like

W________
L_________

4_____
5_____
6_____
7_____
8_____
9_____
10____
11____


and just tally, all it takes is 1 dash after each game, adds no time at all :)
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Re: another take on the deathstalker https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34908.msg440025#msg440025
« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2011, 02:13:19 pm »
two eclipses isn't enough I Think
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Re: another take on the deathstalker https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34908.msg440026#msg440026
« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2011, 02:21:19 pm »
two eclipses isn't enough I Think
he has 2 nightfalls too, its just only 2 upped.
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Re: another take on the deathstalker https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34908.msg440060#msg440060
« Reply #4 on: December 18, 2011, 04:32:39 pm »
two eclipses isn't enough I Think
he has 2 nightfalls too, its just only 2 upped.
Sorry I didn't see
it should work good then
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Re: another take on the deathstalker https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34908.msg440087#msg440087
« Reply #5 on: December 18, 2011, 05:59:13 pm »
I think you should replace 2 steals for 2 dusk shields because this deck is easy to outrush
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Re: another take on the deathstalker https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34908.msg440097#msg440097
« Reply #6 on: December 18, 2011, 06:53:36 pm »
looks a decentish build.. maybe replace 1 or 2 steals with something else, 4 seems slightly heavy, but decent enough build..
For ttw its not really a drag, i do it with a piece of paper and just write something like

W________
L_________

4_____
5_____
6_____
7_____
8_____
9_____
10____
11____


and just tally, all it takes is 1 dash after each game, adds no time at all :)
remember i put this together with the intention of facing AI3. the 4 steals is the only counter for you opponents shields/weapons. 1 damage reduction is enough to stop the poison stacking from nightfall/stalker combo. Also it might just be me but i find myself facing the mono aether and hope deck's of the AI3 alot, both of which put out early lobo's/owl's often and having a decent chance to draw the steals is a life saver against these. and thanks for showing you stat system, makes it much less tedious than what i was doing.

I think you should replace 2 steals for 2 dusk shields because this deck is easy to outrush
I tried putting in the dusk shield but becuase the deck uses pend's, if you don't have 3 in your first round it can take upto 6 rounds to put it out...and in reality longer becuase nightfall should take priority. It made things really slow and with a 9-11 round average TTW without shields and no healing, dragging the matches out longer is not a good idea.

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Re: another take on the deathstalker https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34908.msg440122#msg440122
« Reply #7 on: December 18, 2011, 08:55:13 pm »
I think you should replace 2 steals for 2 dusk shields because this deck is easy to outrush
maybe some creature control? If you shoot their creatures they have nothing to attack with
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Re: another take on the deathstalker https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34908.msg440137#msg440137
« Reply #8 on: December 18, 2011, 09:53:35 pm »
I'dd go for plague anyway
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Re: another take on the deathstalker https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34908.msg441991#msg441991
« Reply #9 on: December 24, 2011, 02:07:02 am »
this seems like a cool deck...and i dont think the dusk mantles are necessary, because steal can take a shield, and its much more flexible.

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Re: another take on the deathstalker https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34908.msg441999#msg441999
« Reply #10 on: December 24, 2011, 02:25:00 am »
this seems like a cool deck...and i dont think the dusk mantles are necessary, because steal can take a shield, and its much more flexible.
Not all decks use shields, and some can't be stolen.
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Re: another take on the deathstalker https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34908.msg442088#msg442088
« Reply #11 on: December 24, 2011, 07:16:33 am »
4 steals may be a bit too much, and so may 4 nightbuffs. Definitely add in an arsenic.

 

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