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[Ai3][Pvp2]If You Wait Long Enough, The Dark Turns to Light https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53190.msg1119079#msg1119079
« on: January 04, 2014, 03:02:21 am »
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Stall with Pests, and drain them with SoV. Once they're low enough, Holy Flash your Dolls, and win. Cloak for cc and pc protection.
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Re: [Ai3][Pvp2]If You Wait Long Enough, The Dark Turns to Light https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53190.msg1120010#msg1120010
« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2014, 12:31:21 pm »
Might I suggest adding 2 Dusk Mantles to stall a bit? Your deck needs more stalling so you won't die before you get the chance to finish your opponent off.

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Re: [Ai3][Pvp2]If You Wait Long Enough, The Dark Turns to Light https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53190.msg1120012#msg1120012
« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2014, 12:39:54 pm »
If I remember right, the damage that kills the doll is not dealt to the opponent.

So if you add an eclipse, you can cast 2 Flashes on one doll, which might highly improve your speed. Not to forget that pests and dolls will also deal some extra damage.

And I second EmeraldDagger, Dusk Mantle would help a lot here.

Maybe do
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-1 Doll  -1 Pest + 2 Eclipse
(with eclipse you can cast all 6 flashes on 3 dolls so 4 should be enough)
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Re: [Ai3][Pvp2]If You Wait Long Enough, The Dark Turns to Light https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53190.msg1120176#msg1120176
« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2014, 02:27:10 am »
Yeah I tested a Dolls version when I tried getting SoV to work. It was somewhat like this but it didn't work quite well enough due a lack of defense against rushes. This suffers from the exact same problem.

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Re: [Ai3][Pvp2]If You Wait Long Enough, The Dark Turns to Light https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53190.msg1120472#msg1120472
« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2014, 11:50:26 pm »
I say that instead of adding a Shield you could add in Sundials.
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Re: [Ai3][Pvp2]If You Wait Long Enough, The Dark Turns to Light https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53190.msg1120474#msg1120474
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2014, 12:05:37 am »
Did anyone try my suggestion with Eclipse? If yes, did it speed up the deck?
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Re: [Ai3][Pvp2]If You Wait Long Enough, The Dark Turns to Light https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53190.msg1120479#msg1120479
« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2014, 12:23:22 am »
I'm actually doing the tests now, i'll let ya know  ;D
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Re: [Ai3][Pvp2]If You Wait Long Enough, The Dark Turns to Light https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53190.msg1120480#msg1120480
« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2014, 12:25:30 am »
I'm actually doing the tests now, i'll let ya know  ;D

Cool, thank you! And please also post your deck :D
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Re: [Ai3][Pvp2]If You Wait Long Enough, The Dark Turns to Light https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53190.msg1120684#msg1120684
« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2014, 07:15:23 am »
Definitely enjoyed Gandora's eclipse suggestion.  :D. It made the deck much faster and more stable.
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It is on average 2-3 turns faster than the original. Thanks!  :-*
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Re: [Ai3][Pvp2]If You Wait Long Enough, The Dark Turns to Light https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53190.msg1120795#msg1120795
« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2014, 11:19:00 pm »
Does this deck work unupped and if not, which cards are ones that NEED to be upped?
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Re: [Ai3][Pvp2]If You Wait Long Enough, The Dark Turns to Light https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53190.msg1120797#msg1120797
« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2014, 11:24:51 pm »
It's going to lose a LOT unupped, for a couple reasons.  The holy flashes won't cost 0 anymore, so you'll need light quanta, either from novas (you lose dark pillars/pends to make room) light pendulums (you lose dark pillars/pends to make room) or switching to dark pillars and light mark. (you lose darkness quanta that the mark made, plus your SoVs take 2hp off instead of 3 now)  The other problem unupped is you cannot use the upped doll + eclipse to get 21hp dolls anymore.  You could make a (barely) playable version unupped, but it wouldn't be very good.

Also, giving +rep for coming up with a really interesting deck idea.

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Re: [Ai3][Pvp2]If You Wait Long Enough, The Dark Turns to Light https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53190.msg1120801#msg1120801
« Reply #11 on: January 13, 2014, 12:39:10 am »
Made an unupped version:
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It's significantly slower and unreliable. It does work though:
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