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Re: Oracle : Dream Catcher https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9594.msg1053281#msg1053281
« Reply #156 on: March 23, 2013, 02:09:59 am »
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This deck makes good of DC's rainbow quanta. More pillars than you think you need because of all of DC's quanta control (In my opinion, the worst is the BE's.)

EDIT: Dune scorp version

Awesome!

At the moment, maybe the best unupped deck against DC. How about including it on the Wiki pages?

I agree - this has a lot of potential (except when your dune scorpions don't come out until you have 9 cards left - what luck!  That I survived that long though is already better than I had been doing vs. DC).

Well - I lost again using this deck (one turn away from the win).  Emerald shield does wonders cutting down the Micro Abomination damage... if only there were a way to have more healing.

Update - After getting a few upped towers, this deck works much better.  It was still a little close at points, but it worked well.
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Re: Oracle : Dream Catcher https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9594.msg1058990#msg1058990
« Reply #157 on: April 11, 2013, 04:44:39 pm »
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has worked perfectly 4/4 last tries. Anth's seal of approval!
6/6 now. Give it a shot if you're up against him.

A very easy win with this one, though my pet rustler made it a walkover with a 2nd turn Jade, and I also had a Scorp ready right from the start. Luck?

Very promising counter either way. Good work.
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Re: Oracle : Dream Catcher https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9594.msg1066731#msg1066731
« Reply #158 on: May 05, 2013, 07:18:32 am »
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6/6 now. Give it a shot if you're up against him.


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Re: Oracle : Dream Catcher https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9594.msg1073570#msg1073570
« Reply #159 on: May 23, 2013, 07:39:12 pm »
woof - got some RNG hate on this match with DC.   I was using eagle's deck above:

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with a few upped towers.  A long match to lose, and it wasn't really close as I didn't sting him until the 15th turn....
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Re: Oracle : Dream Catcher https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9594.msg1077418#msg1077418
« Reply #160 on: June 05, 2013, 02:34:31 am »
woof - got some RNG hate on this match with DC.   I was using eagle's deck above:

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with a few upped towers.  A long match to lose, and it wasn't really close as I didn't sting him until the 15th turn....
Tested this. Cutting it way too close to comfort, with my first dune scorp appearing at 13 cards left. BHs barely healed me and I won with zero cards left in the deck. I like the use of pandis, but I question their usefulness when they can potentially GPull a creature, drawing the dune scorps' damage.

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Re: Oracle : Dream Catcher https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9594.msg1077711#msg1077711
« Reply #161 on: June 06, 2013, 01:49:33 am »
woof - got some RNG hate on this match with DC.   I was using eagle's deck above:

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with a few upped towers.  A long match to lose, and it wasn't really close as I didn't sting him until the 15th turn....
Tested this. Cutting it way too close to comfort, with my first dune scorp appearing at 13 cards left. BHs barely healed me and I won with zero cards left in the deck. I like the use of pandis, but I question their usefulness when they can potentially GPull a creature, drawing the dune scorps' damage.
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« Reply #162 on: June 08, 2013, 02:56:21 am »
Pandy can be done before as well. Multiple pandies will kill off the GP'd creature or PU one on your side to kill it. Despite that, pandies are very nice in reducing the damage output when you don't have a shield up or there's annoying creatures. I won with this again, so at least I found a decent half-upped deck to counter dream catcher.

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Re: Oracle : Dream Catcher https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9594.msg1088847#msg1088847
« Reply #163 on: July 25, 2013, 12:05:52 pm »
Save the Black Holes for later in the game to get EMs.
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This has worked great for me. Easy EM.
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The Morning Glory gave it a nice extra oomph to finish the game faster (I drew the first scorpion some 10-15 turns in the game). The mirror shield is there as I only had 2 jade shields, and I switched some of the lightnings out for shockwaves and a firelance because I didn't have enough upped lightnings.

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Re: Oracle : Dream Catcher https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9594.msg1089342#msg1089342
« Reply #164 on: July 28, 2013, 03:00:43 am »
Even with more ups this one didn't work for me. Very close, but  I decked out (1 turn away from the kill):

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It's basically RNG for when your scorp comes and often it can be after 15 cards....oh well.  I'll probably see if I can find a more consistent deck.
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« Reply #165 on: October 09, 2013, 08:36:12 am »
I should post this slightly improved version of my counter since it hasn't lost yet. The old one lost once or twice from lack of quanta and the clutch healing that BH provides.

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Re: Oracle : Dream Catcher https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9594.msg1102780#msg1102780
« Reply #166 on: October 12, 2013, 03:18:22 am »
I should post this slightly improved version of my counter since it hasn't lost yet. The old one lost once or twice from lack of quanta and the clutch healing that BH provides.

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I like the strategy, but it didn't work out for me with a semi-upped version of the deck.  I think it was a poor draw though as I didn't get one of the dragons until the last card... made damage too slow.  I'll give it another try and see what happens.
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Slow damage shouldn't be an issue as long as you have quanta to bounce the Frog infinitely. PA Towers first and foremost!
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