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Re: New False God: DreamCatcher https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5187.msg52189#msg52189
« Reply #12 on: April 12, 2010, 01:15:18 pm »
Okay, I'm gonna take a page out of Socrates' book here.  "It is the mark of an educated mind to entertaining a thought without believing it".

And I did!  I tried this deck, and it went 1 and 9 against half bloods where my deck went 1:2 against the gods, but this deck must have something good about it, it was picked despite pointing this fact out.

So I loaded up a rainbow deck in the trainer (a friend of mine wanted me to test it out), and fought this.  It was embarrassing.

I'd elaborate, but I'm still raging pretty hard and that would be flaming.

The point is, this deck is not good enough to be qualified as a false god.

(NOTE: the deck does have some difficulty in that it's random, and as it's new, you don't know what to expect.  But you can just generally dominate if you learn how to play against it)

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Re: New False God: DreamCatcher https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5187.msg52192#msg52192
« Reply #13 on: April 12, 2010, 01:26:37 pm »
i think decay and neptune are much easier, using my standard-rainbow with a few changes, im 8-0 neptune, 4-0 decay and 4-2 dreamcatcher, 0-5 eternal phoenix.

and its random, you are speaking off, is also the interesting point: you dont know, what will happen.

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Re: New False God: DreamCatcher https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5187.msg52388#msg52388
« Reply #14 on: April 12, 2010, 09:47:25 pm »
Got a fight against this one... in fact, I was a punching bag.

He put Discord in 1st turn and black holed me in the 2nd. Than the butterfly effect destroyed my towers and pillars. He got 2 Fate Egg: one turned in a gravity nimph (lololol), and the other in a ruby dragon :P

My last turn I suceed to put the Fallen Druid in play. He used a Rage Elixir, and he had still a Lightning in hand, he used it on me, just to reduce my life to 1 before the attack :P

In fact, not very friendly.  :-X

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Re: New False God: DreamCatcher https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5187.msg52411#msg52411
« Reply #15 on: April 12, 2010, 10:25:07 pm »
i was doing fine against dream catcher until he got BE on a microabomination. the biggest thing is to get out an otyugh or a ulitharid early so you can stop that. i had out my permafrost shield which stops most of the small creature damage from micro's and deja vu's. However, once BE hit the fan, all of my shards and my shield was gone pretty quickly. I've only played him once, but it wasn't a pleasant experience.

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Re: New False God: DreamCatcher https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5187.msg52415#msg52415
« Reply #16 on: April 12, 2010, 10:44:56 pm »
Okay. Here's my first match against Mr. Catcher.

We both had a slow start, but mine was worse. While I was grasping for towers and left Supernova-less, Dream Catcher fumbled for the first couple of turns before starting a measly offensive of a quinted Micro Abomination, 2 spent Elite Deja Vus, a burrowed Pest, and a Physalia. I still do not have enough quanta to do anything. I set up a Bonewall and Fire Storm and attempt to play a Druid, only to watch it die. I still have Shards. We're still both at full health, relatively slow on both sides.

And then he plays a Black Hole on my still-struggling quanta pool. And then Butterfly Effect on an Abomination. NOW, with the stupid Devourer taking my :entropy, I get my Supernovas. I'm forced to start discarding - I discarded four times. I get a quinted Otyugh out, but I don't have enough :gravity to support him after I get Quicksanded. I start dying a slow and painful death.


So, all in all; he's not all that difficult. I'm confident that with a better start, I could've beat him. The reason I lost was deckout. Nothing more, nothing less. I was sustaining myself, but I was forced to discard my Eternity. He was at 104 health and I was at 50 something and not going down rapidly when I decked out.

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Re: New False God: DreamCatcher https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5187.msg52417#msg52417
« Reply #17 on: April 12, 2010, 10:49:14 pm »
That's my point.  This deck just basically fumbles around until it gets it's BE control out.  So why didn't you vote for the deck with better control?!  Or did you and I just suck.....

I should probably stay away from this thread.

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Re: New False God: DreamCatcher https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5187.msg52428#msg52428
« Reply #18 on: April 12, 2010, 11:20:05 pm »
Oh god, I feel awesome. It was my second match agaisnt Dream Catcher, and I just took him apart. It was just sort of painful to watch.

Early Game: We both get relatively good draws - especially me. I get a Quinted Oty out relatively early and just eat whatever he throws at me. Seriously, a quinted Otyugh and a weapon dealing decent (4-5) damage can basically beat this god. He's a bit slow, but that's how things go with massive creature control. Once I got my Permafrost and my quinted Otyugh out, I was untouchable.

Mid Game: I cruised through this. Fate Eggs, Micro Abominations, Physalias, Devourers... they all plummeted into the jaws of my Otyugh. The only time I was really damaged was by an Ivory Dragon which hatched from an Egg, which promptly got eaten and the damage healed. A couple of Butterfly Effects came out, but they weren't used in accordance with Quint and thus were taken care of. I managed to sneak in a Boneyard and watch all the gods' creature control run itself dry.

End Game: I had 4 cards left in my deck and I hadn't even used Hourglasses. FINALLY, the god stopped trying to kill my Skeletons after hammering at them for half the game. I was doing about 10 damage a turn, and killed him before I decked out.


A powerful god if he's lucky. More of a buffoon when he's not-so-lucky. Also, the deck image is wrong; I don't think he has any Lycanthropes, he has Fate Eggs instead.

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Re: New False God: DreamCatcher https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5187.msg52506#msg52506
« Reply #19 on: April 13, 2010, 02:18:20 am »
got a permofrost out early and protected it the rest is just one sided fight

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Re: New False God: DreamCatcher https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5187.msg52519#msg52519
« Reply #20 on: April 13, 2010, 03:28:39 am »
just saw dreamcatcher for the first time.

second turn BE'd deja vu. i had no oty, but a firestorm in hand. got up to four fire before he threw a blackhole at me. got up to four again, but by then he had quinted the deja vu. i had the quanta for firestorm next turn, but there was no point. he was already destroying my pillars one by one with the deja vu and another BE'd micro that wouldn't be killed by the firestorm.

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Re: New False God: DreamCatcher https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5187.msg52520#msg52520
« Reply #21 on: April 13, 2010, 03:29:40 am »
Quinted BEs remind me of Obliterator :(
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Re: New False God: DreamCatcher https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5187.msg52860#msg52860
« Reply #22 on: April 13, 2010, 09:39:46 pm »
OK, he went first and first turn dropped his entire hand.  stack of pillars, supernovas, Microabom, butterfly effect, devourer, fate egg is how it came out.  the egg pops into a freaking dragon and I'm at half health before I can get anything going, but it's not over yet.  I started with a pretty decent hand, so I drop three pillars to start and the quanta lucks out for me and I can supernova third turn.  My hand is packed full of 4 sundials, so I drop 2 at a time so that one gets destroyed and the other can be used.  I have one firestorm in my starting hand and I draw into the second one as well as an oty and a quint.  I splash both firestorms in one turn to get rid of the butterfly effect MA and the dragon and drop the quint oty, but at this point I am hurting and I don't have a shield.  Another fate egg turns into an invicible dragon and I'm thinking, "I need a miracle." 

I'm the luckiest man alive I think...

With exactly enough light quanta I draw into the 1 miracle in my deck and bam, I'm back in the game.

After that it was smooth sailing, he tried to butterfly effect again, but never dropped a quint on them, so my oty had a buffet.  Eventually he fell to massive beats from my mutants and fireflies.  I didn't even play eternity, much less use it, but I got down to my last 3 cards before winning.

All in all, I think that Dream Catcher isn't as hard as he seems.  If you can stop the initial havoc, he slows down quite a lot in the midgame, and doesn't seem to have much endgame at all.  It's just his opening that can destroy your pillars, hourglasses, and quanta, but if you can salvage enough to fight back, he's a dead man.

Kinda like siesm after you EA your pillar stack...  Siesm should be programmed to ragequit when you do that.


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Re: New False God: DreamCatcher https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5187.msg53995#msg53995
« Reply #23 on: April 16, 2010, 01:41:56 am »
OK, he went first and first turn dropped his entire hand.  stack of pillars, supernovas, Microabom, butterfly effect, devourer, fate egg is how it came out.  the egg pops into a freaking dragon and I'm at half health before I can get anything going, but it's not over yet.  I started with a pretty decent hand, so I drop three pillars to start and the quanta lucks out for me and I can supernova third turn.  My hand is packed full of 4 sundials, so I drop 2 at a time so that one gets destroyed and the other can be used.  I have one firestorm in my starting hand and I draw into the second one as well as an oty and a quint.  I splash both firestorms in one turn to get rid of the butterfly effect MA and the dragon and drop the quint oty, but at this point I am hurting and I don't have a shield.  Another fate egg turns into an invicible dragon and I'm thinking, "I need a miracle." 

I'm the luckiest man alive I think...

With exactly enough light quanta I draw into the 1 miracle in my deck and bam, I'm back in the game.

After that it was smooth sailing, he tried to butterfly effect again, but never dropped a quint on them, so my oty had a buffet.  Eventually he fell to massive beats from my mutants and fireflies.  I didn't even play eternity, much less use it, but I got down to my last 3 cards before winning.

All in all, I think that Dream Catcher isn't as hard as he seems.  If you can stop the initial havoc, he slows down quite a lot in the midgame, and doesn't seem to have much endgame at all.  It's just his opening that can destroy your pillars, hourglasses, and quanta, but if you can salvage enough to fight back, he's a dead man.

Kinda like siesm after you EA your pillar stack...  Siesm should be programmed to ragequit when you do that.


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Oh, yeah... not so hard. You just need have 4 sundials in hand, then get 2 fire storms, then a miracle with the exact amount of quanta :D

Guy, EVERY FG is easy after u can establish your rainbow deck and is in control of his creatures using a quinted oty :P :P :P  The problem is... just to get there ;)

 

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