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Which Element is Most Difficult to Design for?

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Which Element is Most Difficult to Design for? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45423.msg1025896#msg1025896
« on: December 26, 2012, 11:29:09 pm »
For me i find  :earth:time and Other most difficult.
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Re: Which Element is Most Difficult to Design for? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45423.msg1025902#msg1025902
« Reply #1 on: December 27, 2012, 12:18:38 am »
Entropy and Other, both because their themes are ill-defined. For Entropy, I'll admit, there is the randomness theme, but it's not like you can take any random mechanic and adding a dice roll will make it a flavorful Entropy card. Other cards, on the other hand, tie into no strong theme whatsoever. That in itself...is its theme?

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Re: Which Element is Most Difficult to Design for? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45423.msg1025922#msg1025922
« Reply #2 on: December 27, 2012, 01:57:56 am »
:entropy do need some more reliable cards, that is, card not based on randomness but still matches in the concept.
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Re: Which Element is Most Difficult to Design for? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45423.msg1025937#msg1025937
« Reply #3 on: December 27, 2012, 02:56:00 am »
Making some offensive/pseudo-tricky light cards is fairly difficult.
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Re: Which Element is Most Difficult to Design for? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45423.msg1025938#msg1025938
« Reply #4 on: December 27, 2012, 03:00:47 am »
Other is the most difficult because the cost results in very difficult balancing. (SN, QT and Duo decks)


Entropy is less difficult if one understands the scientific concept of entropy.
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Re: Which Element is Most Difficult to Design for? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45423.msg1025994#msg1025994
« Reply #5 on: December 27, 2012, 05:59:48 am »

Other is the most difficult because the cost results in very difficult balancing. (SN, QT and Duo decks)


Entropy is less difficult if one understands the scientific concept of entropy.

Based on the science, entropy increases = time goes ,but failed to make an card idea from that. :(
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Re: Which Element is Most Difficult to Design for? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45423.msg1026080#msg1026080
« Reply #6 on: December 27, 2012, 01:32:57 pm »

Other is the most difficult because the cost results in very difficult balancing. (SN, QT and Duo decks)


Entropy is less difficult if one understands the scientific concept of entropy.

Based on the science, entropy increases = time goes ,but failed to make an card idea from that. :(

Examples of increasing entropy
Scrambling an egg (removing structure)
Gas dispersing (removing structure)
Formation of Lipid Bilayers in water (Strange but true. Creation is sometimes entropically favored.)
Rolling a die (1 present => multiple futures)
2H20 => 2H2 + O2 (1 molecule = multiples molecules)
Disrupting a formation (removing structure)
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Re: Which Element is Most Difficult to Design for? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45423.msg1026086#msg1026086
« Reply #7 on: December 27, 2012, 01:41:30 pm »
1st) Other :rainbow, for obvious reasons.
2nd) Fire :fire, because it is difficult to design anything new and original without ruining the ultra-aggressive nature of this element.
3rd) Death :death, because balancing death-triggered effects is quite challenging and difficult. Most Death ideas I've seen so far seem either too weak or too powerful.
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Re: Which Element is Most Difficult to Design for? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45423.msg1026087#msg1026087
« Reply #8 on: December 27, 2012, 01:45:18 pm »
Voted Other, :aether and :fire, because of balance reasons. Anything new to the dominant elements requires more balancing and testing, and I find Aether and Fire the most powerful out of the dominant four.
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Re: Which Element is Most Difficult to Design for? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45423.msg1026392#msg1026392
« Reply #9 on: December 28, 2012, 07:11:07 pm »
Entropy does seem to be tricky, since you do want to avoid all the random effects, so that it can maintain a fresh amount of stable strategies.  Other is not so tricky, but does not necessarily need an excessive card base.

EDIT: Funny that Gravity is thought to be 'hard' to design for, considering it is the element I have the most card ideas for...
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