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Re: Pseudoquanta https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27033.msg363306#msg363306
« Reply #108 on: July 09, 2011, 05:18:05 pm »
While it would be easily possible to whip up a few potential definitions for a 'blood' pseudoquanta, I think generally the idea should come first (and be necessary for a card mechanic), then art should come after it.  ;)
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Re: Pseudoquanta https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27033.msg363308#msg363308
« Reply #109 on: July 09, 2011, 05:21:23 pm »
Blood was done a while ago, by patchx94. It wasn't exactly a psuedoquanta, however it did require HP costs.
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Re: Pseudoquanta https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27033.msg363310#msg363310
« Reply #110 on: July 09, 2011, 05:33:55 pm »
Might I suggest this as a basic Blood card, or how otherwise would it work?

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Re: Pseudoquanta https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27033.msg363391#msg363391
« Reply #111 on: July 09, 2011, 09:03:03 pm »
Should there also be a distinction from "Blood" cards that remove Max HP as opposed to cards that just damage you for a certain amount?

Should they be different Pseudoquanta?

A decent analogy is that of Shard of Divinity to Heal.
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Re: Pseudoquanta https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27033.msg363413#msg363413
« Reply #112 on: July 09, 2011, 10:10:40 pm »
Should there also be a distinction from "Blood" cards that remove Max HP as opposed to cards that just damage you for a certain amount?I think so.

Should they be different Pseudoquanta? Uncertain.

A decent analogy is that of Shard of Divinity to Heal. I agree.
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Re: Pseudoquanta https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27033.msg363419#msg363419
« Reply #113 on: July 09, 2011, 10:38:09 pm »
I certainly understand.  How would Blood psuedoquanta be used anyways?  Next to the icon, the number would represent the HP lost?  If so, would the default be temporary (anti-Heal, 80 out of 100 left) with a keyword in the text saying Permanent or Sacrifice (anti-SoD, 80 out of 80 left)?

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Re: Pseudoquanta https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27033.msg363429#msg363429
« Reply #114 on: July 09, 2011, 10:58:24 pm »
I'd just go so far as to say that Blood should be entirely MaxHP loss; damage that can be healed should just be labeled on the card as damage taken when cast.
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Re: Pseudoquanta https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27033.msg363444#msg363444
« Reply #115 on: July 09, 2011, 11:15:09 pm »
Plus, damage taken is easily mitigated with SoGs, Heals, Sanctuaries, etc.

Max HP seems to be the way to go. And don't forget 1 :blood can also represent a certain amount of health such as 5HP. ^_^
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Re: Pseudoquanta https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27033.msg367014#msg367014
« Reply #116 on: July 16, 2011, 03:04:40 pm »
I was trying to work with the Blood mechanic, but I realized a problem.  It currently, like all Psuedo-quanta uses the top right corner for its cost, theoretically.  That means all Blood cards would be free except for the hp cost, unless we added an Absorb clause.  For a spell, that might be cumbersome, and permanents don't always need to absorb each turn.

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Re: Pseudoquanta https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27033.msg370282#msg370282
« Reply #117 on: July 23, 2011, 03:18:18 pm »
not neccesarrily, for monsters, the absorb clause can simply be
absorb (n)
where (n) is the max life removed, and if it absorbs something every turn, it can be
absorb (n) at turn end.
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Re: Pseudoquanta https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27033.msg370312#msg370312
« Reply #118 on: July 23, 2011, 04:17:06 pm »
The way I did it in my bloodwork series was "Lose X HPs when played." and "Absorb X HPs every turn." Anyways, it's certainly possible to think of two distinct clauses that mean instant cost or continuous upkeep. But there's nothing to get away from the "cumbersome" part of trying to fit everything onto a card.

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Re: Pseudoquanta https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27033.msg370313#msg370313
« Reply #119 on: July 23, 2011, 04:20:28 pm »
What about this: Make the cards "free" but add, with the pseudoquanta description in the notes, that any card played that uses this type of "quanta" will cause the player to be silenced. Then, for the weapon, make the ability "remove silence from yourself."

 

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