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Re: PROJECT : The 14th Element [Discussion - A Trinity?] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43487.msg1015031#msg1015031
« Reply #96 on: November 12, 2012, 09:00:08 am »
That means that wind could also be a new element. In other words, wind could differ in air. Because wind is actually formed through differences in pressure rather than genuine 'gaseous substances'.
Yes! Wind cannot be broken down into multiple separate things, can be divided in half without changing and is not made from an existing element.

Is that... sarcasm I see?
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Re: PROJECT : The 14th Element [Discussion - A Trinity?] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43487.msg1015034#msg1015034
« Reply #97 on: November 12, 2012, 09:17:24 am »
That means that wind could also be a new element. In other words, wind could differ in air. Because wind is actually formed through differences in pressure rather than genuine 'gaseous substances'.
Yes! Wind cannot be broken down into multiple separate things, can be divided in half without changing and is not made from an existing element.

Is that... sarcasm I see?
Not from me.
A tool like a pencil can be broken down into the graphite, the wood, the metal band and the rubber. So it is not an element. A mountain can be divided into many rocks. So it is not an element. Ice is made of Water. So it is not an element. I cannot split Wind into 2 or more things. If I cut some wind into pieces the pieces remain wind. Wind is not made of Air despite moving through air. So Wind could be an element.
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Re: PROJECT : The 14th Element [Discussion - A Trinity?] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43487.msg1015036#msg1015036
« Reply #98 on: November 12, 2012, 09:28:58 am »
That means that wind could also be a new element. In other words, wind could differ in air. Because wind is actually formed through differences in pressure rather than genuine 'gaseous substances'.
Yes! Wind cannot be broken down into multiple separate things, can be divided in half without changing and is not made from an existing element.

Is that... sarcasm I see?
Not from me.
A tool like a pencil can be broken down into the graphite, the wood, the metal band and the rubber. So it is not an element. A mountain can be divided into many rocks. So it is not an element. Ice is made of Water. So it is not an element. I cannot split Wind into 2 or more things. If I cut some wind into pieces the pieces remain wind. Wind is not made of Air despite moving through air. So Wind could be an element.

Oh okay. Still, though I agree with you partly, Wind seems too similar to air for my liking. If we had a better name... maybe 'Pressure'? Or is that too close to :gravity?
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Re: PROJECT : The 14th Element [Discussion - A Trinity?] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43487.msg1015041#msg1015041
« Reply #99 on: November 12, 2012, 09:43:30 am »
That means that wind could also be a new element. In other words, wind could differ in air. Because wind is actually formed through differences in pressure rather than genuine 'gaseous substances'.
Yes! Wind cannot be broken down into multiple separate things, can be divided in half without changing and is not made from an existing element.

Is that... sarcasm I see?
Not from me.
A tool like a pencil can be broken down into the graphite, the wood, the metal band and the rubber. So it is not an element. A mountain can be divided into many rocks. So it is not an element. Ice is made of Water. So it is not an element. I cannot split Wind into 2 or more things. If I cut some wind into pieces the pieces remain wind. Wind is not made of Air despite moving through air. So Wind could be an element.

Oh okay. Still, though I agree with you partly, Wind seems too similar to air for my liking. If we had a better name... maybe 'Pressure'? Or is that too close to :gravity?
It is close to Air. Just like Wood and Metal and Force are close to Life, Earth and Gravity. A better name would not change that detail. I would not recommend adding any of those 4 to the game as a result of being too similar. However they do qualify as elements and thus are appropriate for this design practice.
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Re: PROJECT : The 14th Element [Discussion - A Trinity?] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43487.msg1015043#msg1015043
« Reply #100 on: November 12, 2012, 09:47:31 am »
what about "spirit" (as in "goodness") and "gluttony"?
dunno if putting human traits is good though...

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Re: PROJECT : The 14th Element [Discussion - A Trinity?] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43487.msg1015045#msg1015045
« Reply #101 on: November 12, 2012, 09:51:11 am »
what about "spirit" (as in "goodness") and "gluttony"?
dunno if putting human traits is good though...
Gluttony cannot be used as a building component.
"Spirit" as in "goodness" confuses me.
"Spirit" as in soul is a possibility.

However I believe the poll determined the pair Wood and Metal for this time. Am I wrong?
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Re: PROJECT : The 14th Element [Discussion - A Trinity?] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43487.msg1015046#msg1015046
« Reply #102 on: November 12, 2012, 09:52:26 am »
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Re: PROJECT : The 14th Element [Discussion - A Trinity?] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43487.msg1015048#msg1015048
« Reply #103 on: November 12, 2012, 10:03:20 am »
I believe Wood and Metal are fair names for an element. After all, the famous elemental system known as Wu Xing  has  Fire, Earth, Metal, Water and Wood for its core elements. Because of this, Wood and Metal are fine as elemental titles.
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Re: PROJECT : The 14th Element [Discussion - A Trinity?] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43487.msg1015049#msg1015049
« Reply #104 on: November 12, 2012, 10:07:48 am »
I believe Wood and Metal are fair names for an element. After all, the famous elemental system known as Wu Xing  has  Fire, Earth, Metal, Water and Wood for its core elements. Because of this, Wood and Metal are fine as elemental titles.

I believe it's Gold(金), but yeah, it could be interpreted as Metal. And for wood... well it still closely resembles  :life, no matter what way you look at it.

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Re: PROJECT : The 14th Element [Discussion - A Trinity?] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43487.msg1015061#msg1015061
« Reply #105 on: November 12, 2012, 11:13:55 am »
It is close to Air. Just like Wood and Metal and Force are close to Life, Earth and Gravity. A better name would not change that detail. I would not recommend adding any of those 4 to the game as a result of being too similar. However they do qualify as elements and thus are appropriate for this design practice.

I see now. So... are we doing Wood or Metal as the 14th? Or are we calling it material and doing both? OR starting up a simultaneous 15th Element thread?
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Re: PROJECT : The 14th Element [Discussion - A Trinity?] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43487.msg1015066#msg1015066
« Reply #106 on: November 12, 2012, 11:27:51 am »
It is close to Air. Just like Wood and Metal and Force are close to Life, Earth and Gravity. A better name would not change that detail. I would not recommend adding any of those 4 to the game as a result of being too similar. However they do qualify as elements and thus are appropriate for this design practice.

I see now. So... are we doing Wood or Metal as the 14th? Or are we calling it material and doing both? OR starting up a simultaneous 15th Element thread?

ZBlader is in charge but I would recommend 1 thread for both elements so that it would be practice designing a pair.
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Re: PROJECT : The 14th Element [Discussion - A Trinity?] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43487.msg1015077#msg1015077
« Reply #107 on: November 12, 2012, 12:49:36 pm »
That means that wind could also be a new element. In other words, wind could differ in air. Because wind is actually formed through differences in pressure rather than genuine 'gaseous substances'.
Yes! Wind cannot be broken down into multiple separate things, can be divided in half without changing and is not made from an existing element.

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A tool like a pencil can be broken down into the graphite, the wood, the metal band and the rubber. So it is not an element. A mountain can be divided into many rocks. So it is not an element. Ice is made of Water. So it is not an element. I cannot split Wind into 2 or more things. If I cut some wind into pieces the pieces remain wind. Wind is not made of Air despite moving through air. So Wind could be an element.


But Wind is also Air right?? or am i wrong??
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