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Re: Pre-Smithy Ideas https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18212.msg246260#msg246260
« Reply #72 on: January 12, 2011, 11:42:04 pm »
i didn't mean sapient and i don't know how yeast is really related at all to to consciousness and perception
So you meant a word for something that does not know it exists? (Sentience approximately means self awareness)

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Well, does a yeast have emotions? ;)  But then again, that basically applies to every bacteria, plant, and fungus.


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This was the other reason I suggested Abiotic, rocks are not aware they exist...

...Unless rutarete's trying to create a creature that is not able to have a high mental function (in other words, it's dumb enough to not know it exists).
it's not a creature. it's the name of a permanent. and on a side note, you could make a card about something dumb enough to not know it exists
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Re: Pre-Smithy Ideas https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18212.msg246303#msg246303
« Reply #73 on: January 13, 2011, 01:09:47 am »
What is a one word word for Non-sentient Existence?
Abiotic.  Out of curiosity, is your card something like a rock or inanimate object?
Abiotic means non living not non-sentient

Rutarete did you really mean non-sentient (yeast) or non-sapient (dogs)?
i didn't mean sapient and i don't know how yeast is really related at all to to consciousness and perception
So you meant a word for something that does not know where it ends and other begins? (Sentience approximately means self awareness)
ummmm. not quite like that. you see, i have life related to consciousness, and as death is the opposite of life, i found that non-sentient existence is the opposite relation
Sentient things are a subset of living things. Non Sentient things is a category that includes some living and some non living things. As such non sentient is not associated with Death but rather with either Death or Life. Also Life deals with the living and Death deals with the (un)dead.

PS: Vultures are sentient but associated with dead meat.
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Re: Pre-Smithy Ideas https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18212.msg246432#msg246432
« Reply #74 on: January 13, 2011, 05:00:27 am »
What is a one word word for Non-sentient Existence?
Abiotic.  Out of curiosity, is your card something like a rock or inanimate object?
Abiotic means non living not non-sentient

Rutarete did you really mean non-sentient (yeast) or non-sapient (dogs)?
i didn't mean sapient and i don't know how yeast is really related at all to to consciousness and perception
So you meant a word for something that does not know where it ends and other begins? (Sentience approximately means self awareness)
ummmm. not quite like that. you see, i have life related to consciousness, and as death is the opposite of life, i found that non-sentient existence is the opposite relation
Sentient things are a subset of living things. Non Sentient things is a category that includes some living and some non living things. As such non sentient is not associated with Death but rather with either Death or Life. Also Life deals with the living and Death deals with the (un)dead.

PS: Vultures are sentient but associated with dead meat.
"Sentient things are a subset of living things." Ok "Non Sentient things is a category that includes some living and some non living things." you're talking about plants, i assume. "As such non sentient is not associated with Death but rather with either Death or Life." in the plant sense, yes.
so let's say you agree that life is related to consciousness (conscious existence). since consciousness is a form of awareness, would not death be (by synonymic wording) Non-Sentient (Existence)? since non sentient is being debated here, do you have an idea of what to replace it with?
ps. nice point on the vulture
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Re: Pre-Smithy Ideas https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18212.msg246441#msg246441
« Reply #75 on: January 13, 2011, 05:19:30 am »
Sentient things are a subset of living things. Non Sentient things is a category that includes some living and some non living things. As such non sentient is not associated with Death but rather with either Death or Life. Also Life deals with the living and Death deals with the (un)dead.

PS: Vultures are sentient but associated with dead meat.
"Sentient things are a subset of living things." Ok "Non Sentient things is a category that includes some living and some non living things." you're talking about plants, i assume. And low animals too "As such non sentient is not associated with Death but rather with either Death or Life." in the plant sense, yes.
so let's say you agree that life is related to consciousness (conscious existence). since consciousness is a form of awareness, would not death be (by synonymic wording) Non-Sentient (Existence)? since non sentient is being debated here, do you have an idea of what to replace it with?
ps. nice point on the vulture
I think the Living/Life vs Undead/Undeath is an ideal pairing. The problem with consciousness is that it is associated with a subset of Life not with Life holistically. If you told me the mechanics involved I could help a lot easier.
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Re: Pre-Smithy Ideas https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18212.msg246606#msg246606
« Reply #76 on: January 13, 2011, 01:58:30 pm »
Would a shield that does the opposite affect to Dissipation Shield | Dissipation Field be a good idea?
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Re: Pre-Smithy Ideas https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18212.msg246611#msg246611
« Reply #77 on: January 13, 2011, 02:02:41 pm »
Would a shield that does the opposite affect to Dissipation Shield | Dissipation Field be a good idea?
Solar Shield?
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Re: Pre-Smithy Ideas https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18212.msg246616#msg246616
« Reply #78 on: January 13, 2011, 02:11:34 pm »
yeah but a bit stronger and produces random quanta.
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Re: Pre-Smithy Ideas https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18212.msg246619#msg246619
« Reply #79 on: January 13, 2011, 02:15:56 pm »
Personally I think that Solar shield fills the role of quanta producing shield well enough for the specific damage scaling quanta niche. This is not to say we shouldn't have other quanta producing shields.
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« Reply #80 on: January 13, 2011, 10:38:55 pm »
Are there any creatures in the world that could Infest like Malignant Cell?
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Re: Pre-Smithy Ideas https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18212.msg246903#msg246903
« Reply #81 on: January 13, 2011, 11:30:50 pm »
Are there any creatures in the world that could Infest like Malignant Cell?
ants, rats and fleas
i read in a fact book of stuff i don't need to know that rats can mate 7 times in a day, have a bunch of cousins in a week, and the number just keeps growing. it also said that there's a 7 people to 1 rat ratio in new york city (well, something like that)
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« Reply #82 on: January 13, 2011, 11:38:50 pm »
Sentient things are a subset of living things. Non Sentient things is a category that includes some living and some non living things. As such non sentient is not associated with Death but rather with either Death or Life. Also Life deals with the living and Death deals with the (un)dead.

PS: Vultures are sentient but associated with dead meat.
"Sentient things are a subset of living things." Ok "Non Sentient things is a category that includes some living and some non living things." you're talking about plants, i assume. And low animals too "As such non sentient is not associated with Death but rather with either Death or Life." in the plant sense, yes.
so let's say you agree that life is related to consciousness (conscious existence). since consciousness is a form of awareness, would not death be (by synonymic wording) Non-Sentient (Existence)? since non sentient is being debated here, do you have an idea of what to replace it with?
ps. nice point on the vulture
I think the Living/Life vs Undead/Undeath is an ideal pairing. The problem with consciousness is that it is associated with a subset of Life not with Life holistically. If you told me the mechanics involved I could help a lot easier.
so far the only mechanic i have are the names. i once thought of the effect at school and forgot it while eating lunch. so i'm stuck again. but i'll show what i have anyway; the death one is an attempt to make a one word word for non-sentient existence. i looked up the roots and put them together
Circle of Fire | Circle of Flames
Circle of Water | Circle of Torrents
Circle of Entropy | Circle of Chaos
Circle of Aether | Circle of Matter
Circle of Life | Circle of Consciousness
Circle of Death | Circle of Nonsentisterence
Circle of Light | Circle of Illumination
Circle of Darkness | Circle of Obscurity
Circle of Time | Circle of Existence
Circle of Gravity | Circle of Space
Circle of Air | Circle of Winds
Circle of Earth | Circle of Lands
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Re: Pre-Smithy Ideas https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18212.msg246941#msg246941
« Reply #83 on: January 14, 2011, 12:09:53 am »
Sentient things are a subset of living things. Non Sentient things is a category that includes some living and some non living things. As such non sentient is not associated with Death but rather with either Death or Life. Also Life deals with the living and Death deals with the (un)dead.

PS: Vultures are sentient but associated with dead meat.
"Sentient things are a subset of living things." Ok "Non Sentient things is a category that includes some living and some non living things." you're talking about plants, i assume. And low animals too "As such non sentient is not associated with Death but rather with either Death or Life." in the plant sense, yes.
so let's say you agree that life is related to consciousness (conscious existence). since consciousness is a form of awareness, would not death be (by synonymic wording) Non-Sentient (Existence)? since non sentient is being debated here, do you have an idea of what to replace it with?
ps. nice point on the vulture
I think the Living/Life vs Undead/Undeath is an ideal pairing. The problem with consciousness is that it is associated with a subset of Life not with Life holistically. If you told me the mechanics involved I could help a lot easier.
so far the only mechanic i have are the names. i once thought of the effect at school and forgot it while eating lunch. so i'm stuck again. but i'll show what i have anyway; the death one is an attempt to make a one word word for non-sentient existence. i looked up the roots and put them together
Circle of Fire | Circle of Flames
Circle of Water | Circle of Torrents
Circle of Entropy | Circle of Chaos Entropy may not mean chaotic. See nova.Thermodynamics?/Degeneration?
Circle of Aether | Circle of Matter Space
Circle of Life | Circle of Consciousness Vivacity/Vigor
Circle of Death | Circle of Nonsentisterence Undeath
Circle of Light | Circle of Illumination
Circle of Darkness | Circle of Obscurity
Circle of Time | Circle of Existence
Circle of Gravity | Circle of Space Matter
Circle of Air | Circle of Winds
Circle of Earth | Circle of Lands
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