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Is it so wrong? (new cards similar to current cards) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19891.msg252073#msg252073
« on: January 19, 2011, 08:58:16 pm »
Is it so wrong to create cards that are similar to current cards already in the game?

My reasoning;

A card game should include some fun variations and unpredictability.  It should be very open to the player to play how they want.  I've been thinking plenty about this.

Here's my example, although it isn't a perfect one;



Now this card, produces quanta.  An argument against it was that Life already had a good quantum producer; Rustler.  Granted, Emerald Stone is not too efficient (numbers can always be adjusted), but it is a different way of generating life quanta.  In this specific example, you move from being a duo-element deck (Rustler requires :light) to a mono-element.  This has the potential open up a new deck possibilities._____

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Re: Is it so wrong? (new cards similar to current cards) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19891.msg252080#msg252080
« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2011, 09:07:55 pm »
Cards that are too similar cause redundancy with other cards in game and thus are not worth the slot in in the limited card bank.
Cards that are too dissimilar lack synergies with other cards in game and thus are not worth the slot in in the limited card bank.

The sweet spot in-between is my goal.
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Re: Is it so wrong? (new cards similar to current cards) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19891.msg252084#msg252084
« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2011, 09:11:41 pm »
Cards that are too similar cause redundancy with other cards in game and thus are not worth the slot in in the limited card bank.
Cards that are too dissimilar lack synergies with other cards in game and thus are not worth the slot in in the limited card bank.

The sweet spot in-between is my goal.
There is a limited card bank?!? Why the fudge am I making all these cards for then?!

Is there a known number?  Surely it could be expanded?

I'm pretty sure Magic has over 10,000 cards.  Not saying we have to be like them, but the current count is quite unsatisfying to me.

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Re: Is it so wrong? (new cards similar to current cards) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19891.msg252085#msg252085
« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2011, 09:14:03 pm »
Cards that are too similar cause redundancy with other cards in game and thus are not worth the slot in in the limited card bank.
Cards that are too dissimilar lack synergies with other cards in game and thus are not worth the slot in in the limited card bank.

The sweet spot in-between is my goal.
There is a limited card bank?!? Why the fudge am I making all these cards for then?!
The limited card bank is equal to the number of cards that Zanz has time to add. This bank increases with time but does not excuse overly redundant cards nor overly situational cards either.
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Re: Is it so wrong? (new cards similar to current cards) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19891.msg252087#msg252087
« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2011, 09:14:58 pm »
If there isn't a limited card bank there is certainly limited server space unless Zanz is hosting this off his own servers and that seems ridiculously costly.

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Re: Is it so wrong? (new cards similar to current cards) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19891.msg252487#msg252487
« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2011, 12:04:03 pm »
Emerald Stone is a good card. Why do you feel unconfident with it ?
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Re: Is it so wrong? (new cards similar to current cards) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19891.msg252614#msg252614
« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2011, 04:00:21 pm »
I don't feel a lack of confidence towards this card, but the argument is that it is too similar to another card in its goal; produce life quanta.

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Re: Is it so wrong? (new cards similar to current cards) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19891.msg253279#msg253279
« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2011, 09:58:37 am »
It is not at all similar to rustler in my opinion. Only thing i feel is that it is a bit too slow to be of any use. I think it's the cards problem alone. But still it is a good idea.
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