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I have a Question... https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6466.msg67239#msg67239
« on: May 11, 2010, 10:22:54 pm »
I'm putting this here since it directly relates to the cards and I was unable to locate a more suitable place...
This is directed at someone who does the coding or is familiar with coding I guess...

How long does it take to take a complete 'Card Idea' and actual do the coding to make it a playable card? Assuming that no new mechanic was introduced or anything...

I'm curious =P

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Re: I have a Question... https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6466.msg67242#msg67242
« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2010, 10:26:17 pm »
I'm not really sure where to put this weird question so I'll leave it here for now.

Main section is only for submitting card ideas.

archangelx

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Re: I have a Question... https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6466.msg67246#msg67246
« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2010, 10:27:56 pm »
thank you for calling it weird i feel stupid now T.T

and thanks for moving it to the correct area...

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Re: I have a Question... https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6466.msg67247#msg67247
« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2010, 10:28:54 pm »
it takes as long as Zanz takes to find room in his busy schedule to pay heed to us lowly mortals

that and there is no guarantee that it will be implemented

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Re: I have a Question... https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6466.msg69950#msg69950
« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2010, 03:39:28 am »
I have a different question.

can I make an Other card with a darkness cost? I'd want it to cost darkness to play/use but not gain anything from nightfall.

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Re: I have a Question... https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6466.msg69958#msg69958
« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2010, 04:10:17 am »
I have a different question.

can I make an Other card with a darkness cost? I'd want it to cost darkness to play/use but not gain anything from nightfall.
I don't believe so...

the cost of the card dictates what element it is.
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Re: I have a Question... https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6466.msg70005#msg70005
« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2010, 07:27:22 am »
I have a different question.

can I make an Other card with a darkness cost? I'd want it to cost darkness to play/use but not gain anything from nightfall.
I don't believe so...

the cost of the card dictates what element it is.
I think you can, because there are Elemental Cards with Generic costs. From a database point of view the 2 categories would be seperate. This is speculation tho because we don't actually have code to check. If you want to post an idea that uses Darkness as a deployment cost for an other card I say go for it. It is Unorthodox tho so its reception might not be that great.

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Re: I have a Question... https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6466.msg70009#msg70009
« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2010, 08:32:24 am »
Easier solution is to write on the card that it doesn't benefit from Nightfall, and also tweak the theme so that it would make sense.

'Other' cards with Darkness cost would only make things unnecessarily complex.

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Re: I have a Question... https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6466.msg70051#msg70051
« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2010, 01:54:03 pm »
I imagine it will not take long for Zanzarino or Chris Kang to implement a card idea to the game. Most of the time will be spent a) creating or finding suitable card art and b) play-testing the card before it gets introduced to Beta. But, to give you a precise time as to how long it takes them to go from Idea to Playable Card - it is impossible to say.

Your second question, is interesting. I do not think it would be impossible to make an "Other"-element card, with a cost of :darkness or :fire for example. As Kael rightly pointed out, the card will be stored in the data base something like this:

Name: String ID (eg. Rain of Fire)
Type: (eg. Permanent, Weapon, Shield, Creature or Spell)
Element: (eg. :fire or :darkness, or other)
Playing Cost: Integer (eg. 4 :aether or 3 other)
Stats: If it's a creature or animated Weapon (eg. 2/2 or 5/1)
Ability: Name of the Ability (eg. Growth)
Ability Passive: Name of the Ability (eg. Immortal)

That's probably all there is to a card. The rest is all contained within the functions and routines of what happens when that card is interacted with, for example - Blessing will affect it's stats. Rewind Time will send it to the owners hand. Antimatter will make it's current attack negative. Lobotomize will remove it's Ability field. And so on and so forth.

So, all in all. Yes, I think a card with an elemental cost but belonging to the Other category will be possible. Submit your idea, I am keen to see what it is you have.

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Re: I have a Question... https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6466.msg70089#msg70089
« Reply #9 on: May 17, 2010, 04:09:52 pm »
glavigas idea reminds me of how magic added colored mana costs to playing artifacts, it ruined the whole point of an artifact which was supposed to be used in any deck (unless its activated ability required colored mana) and for it to be colorless

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Re: I have a Question... https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6466.msg89217#msg89217
« Reply #10 on: June 12, 2010, 06:44:45 am »
Well for this I take an an example a 5|3 creature that should cost 4 :darkness and does not benefit from nightfall.

Well 3 possibilities: you make an darkness card that is a spell and generates an 5|3  :water creature if you want it to be unfloodable or an 5|3 :earth creature if you want it to be just normal. (deepseafish or darkcavelurker)
Advantages: It can have a skill, it can do whatever you want
Disadvantage: It needs some tweeking with reverse time!


You make a 0|3  :water or  :earth creature for zero quanta and give it an ability that works like lycantropy: X gains +5|+0 permanently.
Advantage: Reverse time works and drains your quanta as intended
Disadvantages: You have to wait a turn (shard of readiness mechanics are already coded tho!) if you have waited for the card. It can't have an ability anymore

You make a 0|5 card that costs 4 darkness to cast and has the free (and readined) ability : "Hatch", which turns it into a 5|3 water or earth creature.
Advantages and disadvantages are exactly like the 1st possibilty I think

Glaviga

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Re: I have a Question... https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6466.msg118156#msg118156
« Reply #11 on: July 19, 2010, 07:30:53 am »
New Question: If I wanted to make a card involving magnetism where would this card belong? maybe  :gravity?

 

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