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Type Other cards with underwold type cost https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43547.msg1000843#msg1000843
« on: September 19, 2012, 01:40:10 am »
 One of the problems with :rainbow costs on cards is that it can lead to abuse in speedbows. A cool way around this would be to use the :underworld mechanic. I'm not sure if anyone has brought this up before or not, but it seems worth discussing.
Along a similar line. If only 1 type of quanta is used, it would also be interesting in that it would allow "flexible" cards. I.e. cards that vary based on the type of quanta that was paid to make them...
Here is a relatively vanilla example card:

Anyone know if this sort of thing feasible or has Zanz nixed it in some way... I've looked around and found that multi-cost and variable cost is out, but I can't seem to find anything on this in particular.
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Re: Type Other cards with underwold type cost https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43547.msg1000846#msg1000846
« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2012, 01:44:54 am »
Drake tried this by calling it "fused".
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Re: Type Other cards with underwold type cost https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43547.msg1000851#msg1000851
« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2012, 01:51:19 am »
This has been tried for a long time. Kael Hate used it in his Quantum Mechanics workshop. I believe he only used one asterisk instead of two.
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Re: Type Other cards with underwold type cost https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43547.msg1001026#msg1001026
« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2012, 02:40:20 pm »
That looks like a nice idea. Bit more balanced than cost of any quanta you got ...

Quote from: ddevans96 on September 19, 2012, 01:51:19 am
This has been tried for a long time. Kael Hate used it in his Quantum Mechanics workshop. I believe he only used one asterisk instead of two.
That extra asterisk must be an improvement. :)
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Re: Type Other cards with underwold type cost https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43547.msg1001049#msg1001049
« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2012, 04:18:11 pm »
Anyone know of Zanz's sentiments on the matter? ... No use making cards with this mechanic if they will never see the light of day after all.
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Re: Type Other cards with underwold type cost https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43547.msg1001055#msg1001055
« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2012, 04:50:02 pm »
Sorry, I don't understand. How would you choose the type of quanta? Or it just takes it from the biggest pool?
Anyway, the idea is really good.
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Re: Type Other cards with underwold type cost https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43547.msg1001066#msg1001066
« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2012, 05:14:41 pm »
In most respects, it is treated like :rainbow , so it would be random. The only difference is that in order to cast it, all the quanta needed must reside in a single element pool whereas :rainbow could draw from multiple pools.
E.g. You would not be able to cast it unless at least one of your quanta pools had 10 quanta. If more than one pool has 10 quanta, one of them is chosen at random.

So in a sense, the dragon you get out of this card will be "randomly picked" but you have some control based on what pools have enough available quanta at the time. (eg in a mono or duo, you would only see one of the 2 types your deck produces... in a rainbow it could be anything)
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