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Stacking Spells https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42240.msg525493#msg525493
« on: July 25, 2012, 09:04:35 pm »
So recently, a pretty cool guy, named odideph, just made some interesting chainstack spells, where if you play more in the same turn, you gain additional stacking benefits.

He has three cards out as of the making of this, and they all share the same mechanic.
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,42236.0.html
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,42235.0.html
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,42232.0.html

So, basically, in this thread, discuss chainstack spells, and create some if you wish. odideph is obviously a quest star, as such should be treated with utmost respect in this thread.


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Note: Chainstack is purely beneficial, the grey line will come later.
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Re: Stacking Spells https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42240.msg525496#msg525496
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Re: Stacking Spells https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42240.msg525497#msg525497
« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2012, 09:09:32 pm »
Why not triangle numbers (1,3,6,10,15,21) rather than powers of 2 (2n-1: 1,3,7,15,31,63)?
Aka increase by 1 rather than double.
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Re: Stacking Spells https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42240.msg525498#msg525498
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Re: Stacking Spells https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42240.msg525499#msg525499
« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2012, 09:11:05 pm »
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,37282.0.html
That's necro, and this is slightly different.
If you've actually read odideph's posts, you'd realize that was where he got the idea from.

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Re: Stacking Spells https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42240.msg525500#msg525500
« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2012, 09:12:00 pm »
Why not triangle numbers (1,3,6,10,15,21) rather than powers of 2 (2n-1: 1,3,7,15,31,63)?
Aka increase by 1 rather than double.
Thats actually not a bad idea. Could be a berf if chainstack spells are too OP.
(Lower cost, lower effect)
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Re: Stacking Spells https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42240.msg525501#msg525501
« Reply #6 on: July 25, 2012, 09:14:01 pm »
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,37282.0.html
That's necro, and this is slightly different.
If you've actually read odideph's posts, you'd realize that was where he got the idea from.
I did read, but it says "inspiration" not "taken duly from". XD Right now we're talking about purely beneficial instead of the grey line. I'll add into original post.
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Re: Stacking Spells https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42240.msg525539#msg525539
« Reply #7 on: July 25, 2012, 10:40:09 pm »
I took the concept from that thread up there, but noticed the discussion there had ended abruptly without any card proposal, so i made mine and mentioned the link ofc. And even if it wasn't necro, i'm not allowed to post there. I'm just trying to save an idea that i found interesting.

The Chain mechanism is also strategically interesting. Right now, only SoI promotes keeping many cards of the same type in your hand for a later, greater effect, and it does it in a sub-optimal way because:
-drawing more SoI's than you wanted can screw up the type of Shard Golem you were aiming for, but you still need enough SoI's to be able to play Shard Golem at all
-the way you pay the cost and empty your hand in one cast promotes early-game Shard Golem rushes, everything else is likely to fail.

Why not triangle numbers (1,3,6,10,15,21) rather than powers of 2 (2n-1: 1,3,7,15,31,63)?
Aka increase by 1 rather than double.

Looks like a good balancing formula to me, for those stronger type of effects. By now i have all the effects of my upcoming Chain cards written down, i might just use your formula for some of them.
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