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Re: Card Idea Engine (Communal Card Creation) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17219.msg320066#msg320066
« Reply #384 on: April 26, 2011, 02:02:29 am »
okay, since these are gonna stack, ive developed the first cost suggestions:
* = Unupped   **= Upped

these costs are associated with the possibility of not improving the abilities but rather improving costs,
some of these may have to qualify for an upgrade in ability to be worth the upgrading cost such as soothing willow and Rocky Obelisk, for now the costs are mostly associated with the previously stated possibilities and the value of their abilities.
note, as i see it, the lowest value should be no less than *4 and **3 for a single card, anything lower than 3 is a little too cheap for such enhancement effects.

here are my proposed costs:

Electron : * costs 6  :aether    ** costs 5  :aether
Floating:  * costs 4  :air           ** costs 3  :air
Dark :      * costs 5 :darkness  ** costs 4  :darkness
Ivory:      * costs 6  :death       ** costs  5 :death
Rocky:     * costs 5   :earth       ** costs  4 :earth
Irregular: * costs 4   :entropy   ** costs 3 :entropy
Turret : (may have to change ability due to similarity to Ash Shield)
Titanic :  * costs 4  :gravity       ** costs 3 :gravity
Soothing : * costs 4 :life            ** costs 3 :life
Holy :        * costs 4  :light         ** costs 3 :light
Ancient :   *costs 6 :time          ** costs 5  :time
Fort:         *  costs 5  :water     ** costs 4  :water



Do we modify the old thread or create a new one?
Rename the old thread. Flayne will create a new thread.
which thread shall i create? a seperate one just for the shield series?

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Re: Card Idea Engine (Communal Card Creation) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17219.msg320073#msg320073
« Reply #385 on: April 26, 2011, 02:09:21 am »
Dark Pylon is a chance for +2DR and 2x Fire Shield. Sorry for the late recognition on that. 20% chance would fit the costs.
Probably increase Rocky to 7|6
Probably 6|5 for Irregular (assuming Chaos Seed)
I think Soothing needs to be boosted to Regenerate 5

Otherwise I agree with Flayne.
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Re: Card Idea Engine (Communal Card Creation) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17219.msg320081#msg320081
« Reply #386 on: April 26, 2011, 02:14:55 am »
Dark Pylon is a chance for +2DR and 2x Fire Shield. Sorry for the late recognition on that. 20% chance would fit the costs.
Probably increase Rocky to 7|6
Probably 6|5 for Irregular (assuming Chaos Seed)
I think Soothing needs to be boosted to Regenerate 5

Otherwise I agree with Flayne.
20% makes more sense though isn't it a tad bit low? its basically equal to half the chance of Fog shield for creatures to miss, that is considerably low, not sure.

I assumed irregular would be cheaper since chaos seed upped costs 1, although the random effect part costs 2.
but 6 and 5 make sense too since unupped seed costs 2. Repetetive chaos seed + original cost would = 5-6 cost.
agreed.

im not sure on giving Rocky such a high cost since Titanium shield is already very expensive, it would be a bit hard to pull off, I was thinking more on the lines of maybe 6/5?

Soothing boosted to 5hp on upped version?

Also, what thread do I create?

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Re: Card Idea Engine (Communal Card Creation) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17219.msg320085#msg320085
« Reply #387 on: April 26, 2011, 02:18:07 am »
Dark Pylon is a chance for +2DR and 2x Fire Shield. Sorry for the late recognition on that. 20% chance would fit the costs.
Probably increase Rocky to 7|6
Probably 6|5 for Irregular (assuming Chaos Seed)
I think Soothing needs to be boosted to Regenerate 5

Otherwise I agree with Flayne.
20% makes more sense though isn't it a tad bit low? its basically equal to half the chance of Fog shield for creatures to miss, that is considerably low, not sure.

I assumed irregular would be cheaper since chaos seed upped costs 1, although the random effect part costs 2.
but 6 and 5 make sense too since unupped seed costs 2. Repetetive chaos seed + original cost would = 5-6 cost.
agreed.

im not sure on giving Rocky such a high cost since Titanium shield is already very expensive, it would be a bit hard to pull off, I was thinking more on the lines of maybe 6/5?

Soothing boosted to 5hp on upped version?

Also, what thread do I create?
Irregular does more than 3 damage on average. I compared to the Aether Enhancement.
Rocky causes permanent burrowing which blocks buffs and halves attack very good with DR shields. Perhaps 6|5.
Soothing boosted to 5hp on both.

Create a series thread first and get more comments on them. Then lead off with a thread for Rocky or Floating when you think it is time. (I suggest Rocky or Floating because they seem like the best of balance x simplicity)
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Re: Card Idea Engine (Communal Card Creation) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17219.msg320086#msg320086
« Reply #388 on: April 26, 2011, 02:20:20 am »
True enough on Irregular.
though
Do you think Aether enhancement is too strong? I originally intended it to be 2 damage but then I thought it was a little weak, so I boosted it to 3 but with lower chance. Is it too strong?

 

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