Card Idea Engine (Communal Card Creation)

[OldTrees]

I like those modifications Flayne.

cool, so Whats next? wait for everyone to comment?

That and start to try to assign casting costs.

Also does the Aether Enhancer stack with the Earth Enhancer?

[Flayne]

you mean shield enhancing effects can stack?
 well, aether could stack well with it.
3 damage and burrowing. thats badass 

[OldTrees]

you mean shield enhancing effects can stack?
 well, aether could stack well with it.
3 damage and burrowing. thats badass 

That is the question: "Should different types of enhancements stack?" I am in favor of it.

Also there is the question about how to price comparable effects.
Fire Shield is comparable to Aether Enhancement.
Shields get a -3 cost modifier for being resigned to 1 slot.
Enhancers (this version) require a shield to work. That sounds like it is worth a modifier but how much?

[ZephyrPhantom]

Ditto with what Oldtrees has said here. Do these effects only happen if the attack goes through or do they happen even if all damage is blocked?

Electron : Meh. This + Fire Shield is pretty much win.  Can be worked around with medium-high cost though.
Floating: Looks good to me.
Dark : HP regen shield! Looks fun, but again considering Fire Shield here is a good idea.
Ivory: Gives any shield a carapace effect. Don't see why not.
Rocky: Interesting way to implement burrowing as soft CC.
Irregular: What are the effects that can be caused?
Turret :  Sounds similar to Ash Shield (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,24927.0.html).
Titanic : Might be a bit strong, but I don't think it can be worse than Electron or Dark.
Sooting : Might want to let these stack. Otherwise, they're seriously UP compared to SoG.
Holy : Looks good.
Ancient : I remember Kamietsu doing a shield version of this, I just can't find it. Looks good otherwise.
Fort: Might want to increase the chance.

[Manipul8r]

I thought that the cards in the shield enhancement series should not require you to have a shield in play for it to potentially be useful.  Is this limitation no longer in effect?

Ancient Shield still seems extremely powerful, I think for balance it may be better for it to return it to the player's hand instead of to the top of their deck.  At 20%, if they have just 5 creatures, there is a 67% chance at least one gets rewound each turn.  Even if it was 10%, if they have 10 creatures on field, there is still a 65% chance at least one is rewound.  This would be quite powerful with Aflatoxin.

[ZephyrPhantom]

I thought that the cards in the shield enhancement series should not require you to have a shield in play for it to potentially be useful.  Is this limitation no longer in effect?

Ancient Shield still seems extremely powerful, I think for balance it may be better for it to return it to the player's hand instead of to the top of their deck.  At 20%, if they have just 5 creatures, there is a 67% chance at least one gets rewound each turn.  Even if it was 10%, if they have 10 creatures on field, there is still a 65% chance at least one is rewound.  This would be quite powerful with Aflatoxin.

Flayne made his own cards for the series. His new versions require a shield. The CCC ones did not require a shield. I think it would be best to rename the CCC shield enhancement series "Barriers" because they do not require shields out on the field.

[Flayne]

we can go changing the effects as we go.

we have to consider something here though:

do the shield enhancements stack on top of each other? or should they have an effect that destroys both if another of its type get in play? (or nullify effect?)

since each of these do intend to have one for each element.

if they stack on each other, we'd have to balance it so stacking all 12 somehow doesn't seem like an instant win.

[OldTrees]

we can go changing the effects as we go.

we have to consider something here though:

do the shield enhancements stack on top of each other? or should they have an effect that destroys both if another of its type get in play? (or nullify effect?)

since each of these do intend to have one for each element.

if they stack on each other, we'd have to balance it so stacking all 12 somehow doesn't seem like an instant win.

Stacking all 12 would cost enough to be worth a win.
Let them stack.

Also this set by Flayne will be new attempt at shield enhancements.

[ZephyrPhantom]

To prevent confusion, can we call the old series Barriers instead?

[OldTrees]

To prevent confusion, can we call the old series Barriers instead?

Makes sense.

[EmeraldTiger]

Do we modify the old thread or create a new one?

[OldTrees]

Do we modify the old thread or create a new one?

Rename the old thread. Flayne will create a new thread.