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Re: Card Categories for Card Idea Database project https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19301.msg245909#msg245909
« Reply #12 on: January 12, 2011, 02:02:46 pm »
It's not really a big concern but just one thing - in the Permanent category where you could select either weapon or shield, there should also another option for general permanent or a checkbox to disable that. If I've accidentally clicked weapon or shield, I have to reload the form to enter a general permanent in the database. Also, maybe the header should be called "Permanent type". Oh, and how about pillar? (though I doubt there'll be any pillar-like card ideas)

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Re: Card Categories for Card Idea Database project https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19301.msg245912#msg245912
« Reply #13 on: January 12, 2011, 02:06:22 pm »
It's not really a big concern but just one thing - in the Permanent category where you could select either weapon or shield, there should also another option for general permanent or a checkbox to disable that. If I've accidentally clicked weapon or shield, I have to reload the form to enter a general permanent in the database. Also, maybe the header should be called "Permanent type". Oh, and how about pillar? (though I doubt there'll be any pillar-like card ideas)
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Re: Card Categories for Card Idea Database project https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19301.msg245915#msg245915
« Reply #14 on: January 12, 2011, 02:18:59 pm »
Ok, the form is pretty much ready: https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?authkey=COaV-6gK&hl=en&formkey=dFBLVGw4Q2xMQVN5MVlDSTFDbzdYTkE6MQ#gid=0

Please have a look at the mechanics and post suggestions. Thanks.
Looks good, I agree on most of the categories, but you might want to specify some of them (for example, the differences between direct and indirect), and, maybe add a lost categorie saying other, because I don't see a real place for silence right now.
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Re: Card Categories for Card Idea Database project https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19301.msg245970#msg245970
« Reply #15 on: January 12, 2011, 04:01:28 pm »
It's not really a big concern but just one thing - in the Permanent category where you could select either weapon or shield, there should also another option for general permanent or a checkbox to disable that. If I've accidentally clicked weapon or shield, I have to reload the form to enter a general permanent in the database. Also, maybe the header should be called "Permanent type". Oh, and how about pillar? (though I doubt there'll be any pillar-like card ideas)
the card Harmonic Pillar | Harmonic Tower (http://www.google.com/url?q=http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,5643.0.html&usd=2&usg=ALhdy2-3_S-dH1G-fPXhVWjLwdOGdi-lVg) exemplifies this. I believe this should be implimented.
I don't think that adding that option is necessary. If a person clicks Weapon or Shield by mistake (something that probably happens once for every 500 card submissions), he or she can just refresh the form and start again, because up to that point, they have only spent about 5 seconds on it.

I don't think that the Pillar option is needed either. Why cannot they just be regular permanents? Besides, I doubt Elements will see any more Pillars. If there is more need for quanta production, Zanz will most likely use something new, like he did with Pendulums.


Looks good, I agree on most of the categories, but you might want to specify some of them (for example, the differences between direct and indirect), and, maybe add a lost categorie saying other, because I don't see a real place for silence right now.
I'd like to not have "other" option because then people might start using it every time a card is not (in their opinion) a perfect match to some mechanic, leading to a situation where we have tons of "other" mechanics. I think when a card comes whose mechanics we don't have, we should just add a new mechanic to the form.

"Direct Damage" might be better as "Instant Damage", making the other one "Delayed Damage".

For Silence I added "Affect the ability to play cards". Probably not the best one there is, so I'm open for other suggestions.

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Re: Card Categories for Card Idea Database project https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19301.msg245979#msg245979
« Reply #16 on: January 12, 2011, 04:07:26 pm »
Add a quanta generator permanent section instead of a pillar section. This would include Harmonic Pillars, Quantum Pendulums and other permanents like Elemental Clockwork | Elemental Chronometer
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Re: Card Categories for Card Idea Database project https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19301.msg245984#msg245984
« Reply #17 on: January 12, 2011, 04:12:20 pm »
Are we going to have every idea ever suggested or only ones that made it into crucible and above?
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Re: Card Categories for Card Idea Database project https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19301.msg245992#msg245992
« Reply #18 on: January 12, 2011, 04:22:46 pm »
Add a quanta generator permanent section instead of a pillar section. This would include Harmonic Pillars, Quantum Pendulums and other permanents like Elemental Clockwork | Elemental Chronometer
Yeah but we already have Permanents and we have "Generate Quanta". Combine the two, and tada, you'll have that quanta generator permanent. :)


Are we going to have every idea ever suggested or only ones that made it into crucible and above?
I was thinking that we should add Crucible and above, archived ideas included. Ideas that didn't even make it to Crucible, are mostly very low quality.



Btw.. we need to add "Random Effect" somewhere.

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Re: Card Categories for Card Idea Database project https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19301.msg246032#msg246032
« Reply #19 on: January 12, 2011, 05:35:17 pm »
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Are we going to have every idea ever suggested or only ones that made it into crucible and above?
I was thinking that we should add Crucible and above, archived ideas included. Ideas that didn't even make it to Crucible, are mostly very low quality.
*snip*
Adding crucible will take a massive amount of time, we should be 100% certain that we want to add it before doing so.
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Re: Card Categories for Card Idea Database project https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19301.msg246417#msg246417
« Reply #20 on: January 13, 2011, 04:35:37 am »
*snip*
Are we going to have every idea ever suggested or only ones that made it into crucible and above?
I was thinking that we should add Crucible and above, archived ideas included. Ideas that didn't even make it to Crucible, are mostly very low quality.
*snip*
Adding crucible will take a massive amount of time, we should be 100% certain that we want to add it before doing so.
Armory and Forge have a total of less than 200 card ideas. If we didn't include Crucible, it would defeat the whole purpose of this project, which is to add all card ideas in that one database.

Crucible cards will be added for sure. The only question is, do we also add old ideas that were posted before we had Crucible? I personally don't think it's needed because of the low quality (missing pictures etc.).

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Re: Card Categories for Card Idea Database project https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19301.msg246773#msg246773
« Reply #21 on: January 13, 2011, 08:07:22 pm »
*snip*
Are we going to have every idea ever suggested or only ones that made it into crucible and above?
I was thinking that we should add Crucible and above, archived ideas included. Ideas that didn't even make it to Crucible, are mostly very low quality.
*snip*
Adding crucible will take a massive amount of time, we should be 100% certain that we want to add it before doing so.
Armory and Forge have a total of less than 200 card ideas. If we didn't include Crucible, it would defeat the whole purpose of this project, which is to add all card ideas in that one database.

Crucible cards will be added for sure. The only question is, do we also add old ideas that were posted before we had Crucible? I personally don't think it's needed because of the low quality (missing pictures etc.).
Dead threads (ideas made before crucible) are not going to go into the directory, unless we add the smithy. The quality of the idea has no affect on whether or not a card is in the database, since the quality of an idea changes in the eye of the beholder.
This is because I don't want anybody complaining about how they can't find their idea (that's in smithy) in the directory, but there are other ideas that are in smithy and are in the directory.
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Re: Card Categories for Card Idea Database project https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19301.msg246777#msg246777
« Reply #22 on: January 13, 2011, 08:17:15 pm »
Where is this Directory going to be located when it is finished?
Who will have to maintain it and keep it up to date?
May I have a link to it?
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Re: Card Categories for Card Idea Database project https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19301.msg246838#msg246838
« Reply #23 on: January 13, 2011, 09:37:39 pm »
Where is this Directory going to be located when it is finished?
Who will have to maintain it and keep it up to date?
May I have a link to it?
I'd assume it'd be in the original thread (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,19043.0.html), but if SG says otherwise I'm not one to object.
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