Ask the New Idea Guru

[Drake_XIV]

I personally do not feel the need for a new element.  The closest thing I would do would be 'Null,' which would be focused around my idea of Fused cost ideas, a psuedo-:rainbow element where cards, while being able to be paid for with any quanta type, must be paid with a singular element.  Mechanically, they would have effects that differed depending on the element used to pay for it [if paid for with , get +5/-5] and may be mark dependent [if paid for with quanta of your mark, heal 5 health] [if your mark is , gain 5 health].

Alternatively, and this has been explored before with 'Blood' and similar type ideas, it would be a group dedicated to paying for cards with health instead of quanta.  Mechanically, they would be cards that would deal double damage according to their costs [pay 20 health, deal 40 damage] or provide some positive effect over time [pay 10 health, put 5 purify counters on target].

However, both of these types can be fit into any of the existing elements.

[traceurling]

Wasn't sure where to ask this, but if I have a new card idea how do I check to make sure it hasn't been done before?

[Drake_XIV]

One way would be to propose the card idea in the Pre-Smithy and if it has been done before, it will be pointed out by other designers.

You can also look through the Crucible/Forge/Armory polls to see if there is anything similar and, if you have a good idea of what idea you want to make, search their Archives for key words, but that's a bit annoying unless there is a key word you need to see regarding a proposed mechanic.  This also includes searching the name for your idea.

[eaglgenes101]

Am I right to suggest that this is true:
(Cost of composite card) = (Sum of costs of individual component cards) + (component cards-1)(space and time cost of having a card)

(This is the idea behind http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,39465.msg1070378.html#msg1070378 .)

[OldTrees]

Am I right to suggest that this is true:
(Cost of composite card) = (Sum of costs of individual component cards) - (component cards-1)(space and time cost of having a card)

(This is the idea behind http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,39465.msg1070378.html#msg1070378 .)

Rephrase this using 3 photons as an example.

[eaglgenes101]

Am I right to suggest that this is true:
(Cost of composite card) = (Sum of costs of individual component cards) - (component cards-1)(space and time cost of having a card)

(This is the idea behind http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,39465.msg1070378.html#msg1070378 .)

Rephrase this using 3 photons as an example.

A better example would be a card like Owl's eye, which is a damage source and a CC stick at the same time.

But probably this component splitting rule is best on cards that don't have one single counter that works against multiple components like certain spells.

[OldTrees]

Am I right to suggest that this is true:
(Cost of composite card) = (Sum of costs of individual component cards) - (component cards-1)(space and time cost of having a card)

(This is the idea behind http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,39465.msg1070378.html#msg1070378 .)

Rephrase this using 3 photons as an example.

A better example would be a card like Owl's eye, which is a damage source and a CC stick at the same time.

But probably this component splitting rule is best on cards that don't have one single counter that works against multiple components like certain spells.

I asked for 3 photons because it would explain your equation in a manner your wording did not.

[eaglgenes101]

Oh fine...
(Cost of 3 photons) = (0 + 0 + 0) - (2)(1)
That - should have been a +...

With the correction, it's now

(Cost of 3 photons) = (0+0+0) + (2)(1) = 2

Which should seem reasonable...

[OldTrees]

That - should have been a +...
Which should seem reasonable...

Yes it does seem like a reasonable way to calculate a card quanta cost. However I prefer to read it in the total cost form. Just add (space and time cost of having a card) to each side.

[Brontos]

Do you think the game needs more solutions against Intargetable creatures?

[Rutarete]

If you were to remove a card from the game (just one) what would it be and why?

[russianspy1234]

What do you think is an appropriate cost for mill, eg how much  would a spell that read "Destroy the top 3 cards of your opponents deck" cost?