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A Creature that Resists Delay, Freeze, and Stasis https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41325.msg511951#msg511951
« on: June 17, 2012, 02:14:42 am »
The title kind of covers it.

I was unsure of what element to use for the idea, so I don't have a name or even a general theme.

Usual questions:
Is it original, I think someone brought it up, but I don't remember seeing a thread.
How much damage should a creature that can't be stopped do?
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Re: A Creature that Resists Delay, Freeze, and Stasis https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41325.msg511970#msg511970
« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2012, 03:08:03 am »
How much damage should a creature that can't be stopped do?

It can still be stopped by
Rewind, Damage, Antimatter, Damage Reduction, Miss Chances and Dimensional Shield.

Being resistant to Delay, Freeze and Stasis is worth at most a +1 cost beyond the value of the stats.
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Re: A Creature that Resists Delay, Freeze, and Stasis https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41325.msg511972#msg511972
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Re: A Creature that Resists Delay, Freeze, and Stasis https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41325.msg511976#msg511976
« Reply #3 on: June 17, 2012, 03:31:55 am »
4|5 for 5 quanta would be what I'd think.
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Re: A Creature that Resists Delay, Freeze, and Stasis https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41325.msg511978#msg511978
« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2012, 03:51:50 am »
Quote from: OldTrees on June 17, 2012, 03:08:03 am
How much damage should a creature that can't be stopped do?

It can still be stopped by
Rewind, Damage, Antimatter, Damage Reduction, Miss Chances and Dimensional Shield.
You know what I meant by stop...  ::) Excuse my tendency to avoid use of dictionary certified definitions.

Quote from: OldTrees on June 17, 2012, 03:08:03 am
Being resistant to Delay, Freeze and Stasis is worth at most a +1 cost beyond the value of the stats.

Your right, it's ability is too specific for it need to have a high play cost.
While on the topic of it's ability, should it be passive, and have another skill?


Also, I'm still undecided on the element. I'm trying to think of the niche element that would benefit from it, but not too much.

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Re: A Creature that Resists Delay, Freeze, and Stasis https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41325.msg511981#msg511981
« Reply #5 on: June 17, 2012, 04:18:24 am »
I think it makes sense for :death. You can't cheat the reaper. It could be called inexorable.

:aether also seems like a good choice. It is time's opposite and phasing/lightning seems like a good explanation for this ability. That would give aether three kinds of creatures that are hard to control (immortal, spell damage, and this).

:time would also make sense, but I'm not sure  :time needs any sort of CC evasion.

I could also see  :water as an explanation, because it tends to flow around obstacles, and it has a timeless character.

Adrenaline is already sort of like this (but is stopped by stasis), but I don't think  :life makes a lot of sense for this.
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Re: A Creature that Resists Delay, Freeze, and Stasis https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41325.msg511983#msg511983
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Re: A Creature that Resists Delay, Freeze, and Stasis https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41325.msg511985#msg511985
« Reply #7 on: June 17, 2012, 04:38:01 am »
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Re: A Creature that Resists Delay, Freeze, and Stasis https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41325.msg512005#msg512005
« Reply #8 on: June 17, 2012, 05:53:22 am »
Seems kind of too specific compared to immortal.  How about for better flavor, a creature which, instead of simply being immune to these things, actually gets powered up by them?  Would be a great outlet for all those leftover CC cards we SoSerendipity users always end up with  :P
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Re: A Creature that Resists Delay, Freeze, and Stasis https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41325.msg512007#msg512007
« Reply #9 on: June 17, 2012, 06:05:51 am »
Xamuel really got an good idea there
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Re: A Creature that Resists Delay, Freeze, and Stasis https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41325.msg512228#msg512228
« Reply #10 on: June 17, 2012, 09:26:56 pm »
Quote from: Xamuel on June 17, 2012, 05:53:22 am
Seems kind of too specific compared to immortal.  How about for better flavor, a creature which, instead of simply being immune to these things, actually gets powered up by them?  Would be a great outlet for all those leftover CC cards we SoSerendipity users always end up with  :P
I like.
So if I hit it with a Basilisk Blood, in addition to not being delayed, what bonus would you give it?
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Re: A Creature that Resists Delay, Freeze, and Stasis https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41325.msg512231#msg512231
« Reply #11 on: June 17, 2012, 09:45:24 pm »
Quote from: Jyiber on June 17, 2012, 09:26:56 pm
Quote from: Xamuel on June 17, 2012, 05:53:22 am
Seems kind of too specific compared to immortal.  How about for better flavor, a creature which, instead of simply being immune to these things, actually gets powered up by them?  Would be a great outlet for all those leftover CC cards we SoSerendipity users always end up with  :P
I like.
So if I hit it with a Basilisk Blood, in addition to not being delayed, what bonus would you give it?
+20hp :P
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