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Re: PROJECT Gaian vs Cthonic : The Elemental Factions [Reviewing Ideas] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43487.msg1026929#msg1026929
« Reply #228 on: December 30, 2012, 09:58:43 pm »
I really think Gaian should have more creatures and Cthonic should have more permanents in that break down

as for suggestions, after we have a little bit better spread, I think we can narrow down a set to vote on.

Ill give it soime thought and post new ideas to fill in what we need. The Tunnel Network card I did recently fits Cthonic well enough...

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Re: PROJECT Gaian vs Cthonic : The Elemental Factions [Suggest and Review Ideas] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43487.msg1027236#msg1027236
« Reply #229 on: December 31, 2012, 08:54:34 pm »
Well, a brief drop by on chat turned into a very deep design discussion that shows that this project has many flaws and is much more disorganized than I thought. Thematic conflicts ranging from the imbalance of Earth, to lack of uniformity in Cthonic's mechanic,  the fact that underground/aboveground conflict actually kills quite a bit of design space, and suggestions that Genesis counters could work in Cthonic as well as Gaian.

As it is, the project's a mess.

I think we need to reformat how this project is going to work, if we are to get more input from normal users. Here's what I am planning to do:

- Lock the Community Card Design 2 Thread, due to lack of attention.
- Replace it with a Gaian vs. Cthonic Community Card Design Thread. That will be our 'main post' in which the overall set is dicussed.
- Have 2-6 separate threads in design theory - 1 for each faction/cardtype combination at most (at least, we need cthonic/gaian thread split). If 20-ish pages are any indication, we need to split up development so people don't have to dive through tons of pages just to find what they are looking for.

What probably will be kept :
- Genesis Counters in some form
- Theme of Gaian vs Cthonic/Nature vs. Technology

What probably needs to be reworked:
- Cthonic's defining mechanic.
- The setting of the conflict, thematics vs. design.
- Elements each faction covers.
- Is factionless present?
- Where do the two factions meet in terms of design?
- Probably a lot more.

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Re: PROJECT Gaian vs Cthonic : The Elemental Factions [Suggest and Review Ideas] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43487.msg1027247#msg1027247
« Reply #230 on: December 31, 2012, 09:16:09 pm »
I think the project has been moving steadily and most of those problems do not exist.

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Re: PROJECT Gaian vs Cthonic : The Elemental Factions [Suggest and Review Ideas] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43487.msg1027256#msg1027256
« Reply #231 on: December 31, 2012, 10:34:50 pm »
I think the project has been moving steadily and most of those problems do not exist.
Point taken. It seems the real issue was that everyone was defining Cthonic a different way.

For the moment, Cthonic will not have a central mechanic. Instead, it has a central theme of 'cards that recycle/repurpose themselves to benefit other cards'.

The thread, however, needs a fresh start, and will be locked as a result.

 

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