Zombie0's FG farming deck, feedback please :D

[MrMojo]

It's understandable what you say.. if we were commenting on the FIRST version of the deck. Currently, we are commenting on a totally new version of the deck with boneyards, bonewalls, and a lot of new stuff and what not.

Also, they aren't gonna cut it for damage - Aflatoxin + Mutations are gonna cut the cheese for you.

Ahhh
I didnt see the latest version.

[Dm]

It's understandable.

One way or another, I would add back these MF's from the first version, Zombie. They would be your lobo.. which is pretty appreciated against specific Gods.

(Osiris, mass scarab spam.)

[Falcon4415]

Add Incarnate, Paradox, Fire Queen, Dream Catcher and Destiny to the list.

[Dm]

Incarnate - Sometimes. If you time well the liberation of a oty, boneyard, and bonewall you can avoid it. Sans that by the time he gets his retroviruses out, the most important critters should be already quinted, and 2-3 skeletons can lure him into setting the retrovirus. Parasites are meh.

Destiny - Yeah, I know. Fate egg. Not really NEEDED, as you can eat the fate eggs before they even move a finger. Well, mainly because eggs don't have fingers anyway.

Paradox - Yeaahh.. another one where eating could fix it.

Fire Queen - Actually, lobo-ing is a bad idea. Just let TWO of them out, and make your oty eat 1 firefly of each. Once the oty is big enough, he can eat both and follow to kill the rest. It actually more like saves you if you start eating the opponent and not yourself (Incase you don't get the FFQ in time, but as said, he might change to afla.)

Dream Catcher - Unfortunately, I can't talk much about such as it has been so long I last saw him.

[zombie0]

great feedback!  tried a few concepts on the side, gravity shield, lobotomizer, aflatoxin

gravity shield isnt bad, but it doesnt do anything a permafrost cant.  no damage absorb, and an astonishingly large number of creatures get around this card.  if divine glory's weapons were 6+, id probably run it just to counter him, but they are 8/4    gravity shield allows full weapon slot damage too.  ugh.  btw, played osiris and won easily...took FOREVER

lobo isnt bad, but in every case id rather have an eternity.  elf mutate + bounce is amazingly effective.  i like keeping to one weapon

aflatoxin...sigh...  such an amazing combo.  conflict with death quantum and lack of fodder to sac for the creature generation is the issue.  it just doesnt belong in the deck, and besides the one FG that has no creatures, its unnecessary



on the side, i love the boneyards but need to be more patient and stop playing it early for no reason.  lost a couple times wasting quantum needed for the bone shield instead, and not surviving (save me 1/1 skelly   arghhhh i died )

current deck looks like

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52n 52n 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6rn 6rn 6rn 6rn 6rn 6rn 6u6 6u6 71b 74b 74b 77i 7ai 7ak 7do 7do 7gp 7q5 7q5 7q5 7q5 7q5 7q8 7q8 80h 80h 80h

[zombie0]

im keeping a ~40% ratio of towers to other cards.  anything less tends to completely fail early (if i dont get 3 pillars at start, and another 2-3 soon after...deck fails sooo epic  )  if anyone has any specific reason why it should be less/more, please share.


ideas im tossing around

+1 protect artifact
+1 permafrost shield
+? PC?
-1 shard of gratitude
+1 fallen druid
+1 feral bond/purify

not all at once of course, just ideas in general

[Dm]

Ideas I liked.

im keeping a ~40% ratio of towers to other cards.  anything less tends to completely fail early (if i dont get 3 pillars at start, and another 2-3 soon after...deck fails sooo epic  )  if anyone has any specific reason why it should be less/more, please share.


ideas im tossing around

+1 protect artifact
+1 permafrost shield
+? PC?

-1 shard of gratitude
+1 fallen druid
+1 feral bond/purify

not all at once of course, just ideas in general

The rest is just rest. Hourglass provides enough protection, shards area healing, and the purify.. maybe;

[zombie0]

the hardest overall issue with building this deck is the extreme number of towers to keep it happy.  every time i add another 3 "meat" cards, it adds 2 filler towers.  new concepts that are really good ideas get canned because the deck runs worse overall, not because they are bad ideas specifically.

how about a single supernova?  id probably be happy to see one if i drew it, assuming it can be played.  two would be going into "risky" territory, but maybe it deserves testing

can i get away with just one boneyard, or would that weaken the deck?

[Dm]

I think you can pass by with 1 boneyard considering the ridiculous amount of hourglasses xD.

Purify wouldn't need a new tower, nor would a fallen elf. Nor permafrost shield, but a random PC would. Unless it is Explosion, as explosion is not much needed. But we risk making the deck too big. Anything over 50 is too big...


Looking back at it, you don't need another fallen elf.

I still repeat the anubis fact, that it will be a reusable Quint. It could come up in the place of 2 quints and you would be -1 card.

[ninetyfools]

This deck looks good but it looks really slow. You should take out some pillars for novas to speed it up.

[Dm]

I'm really hoping you say SNovas. If it were SNovas, maybe it could help, with with normal novas it wouldn't help, it would slow it even more.

[xdude]

Cut out at least 7-8 Towers. The thing is, while you'll only get on average 1-2 Towers in the first hand, you'll soon start drawing 2-3 cards a turn and get all the Towers you need. Other useless cards include (but are likely not limited to): 1 Eternity, the Life cards and 1 Quint. You might want to add 1 Fog Shield and 1 Puverizer.