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Re: Zombie0's FG farming deck, feedback please :D https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16224.msg208557#msg208557
« Reply #24 on: November 24, 2010, 06:45:43 pm »
- Bonewall - It'll raise to incredible numbers here, I think.
- Boneyard - Can I Haz Moar Food?
- Vulture - Check the numbers, man!
That'll turn the deck to a much more used type, but it's more used because of something, doesn't it? :D
Maybe the best would be taking out at least 1 aflatoxin to add those, and something else, dunno what :P

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Re: Zombie0's FG farming deck, feedback please :D https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16224.msg208634#msg208634
« Reply #25 on: November 24, 2010, 08:52:18 pm »
thanks for all the feedback!

 ::)  mutants are really fun.  unfortunately, the lag it creates is not.  going to avoid aflatoxin in the future, so when the deck is finalized, other people will actually play it

vulture isnt bad, it just has no utility.  kill combos are easy.  not losing is a bit harder.

bonewall is great, but butts head with death quantum (typically boneyard).  probably going to test in this direction, as bonewalls can solve some issues lately (chanted fahrenheit, divine glory etc)  good idea, lets see where it leads us
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Re: Zombie0's FG farming deck, feedback please :D https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16224.msg208643#msg208643
« Reply #26 on: November 24, 2010, 09:10:56 pm »
"To the heavens and beyond!"

Going back to your deck, I think anubis instead of 2 quints is a good idea. Just a Idea, though. Also, either boneyard, or bonewall. I can't decide.


The vulture seemed like a good idea, as you will be always eating and stuff, so it'll grow incredibly.

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Re: Zombie0's FG farming deck, feedback please :D https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16224.msg208786#msg208786
« Reply #27 on: November 25, 2010, 12:18:25 am »
I just remembered about the existance of Can Haz Moar Drawz? (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,11062.0.html). I looks a little like yours (in the way most FG bows look alike :P), and it also focuses on drawing really fast through the deck. Maybe you can get some ideas from the topic.

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Re: Zombie0's FG farming deck, feedback please :D https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16224.msg209124#msg209124
« Reply #28 on: November 25, 2010, 09:29:41 am »
interesting.  not a bad deck to compare to.  thanks!

i swear i added the protect artifact/eternity before seeing that thread.  its actually allowing reckless card use, which is funner

i dont see (comparing to has moar draws) how the other deck survives.  direct damage decks eat non-reflect shields alive.  nothing quite like stalling out decay to get chain siphoned  :(

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Re: Zombie0's FG farming deck, feedback please :D https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16224.msg209127#msg209127
« Reply #29 on: November 25, 2010, 09:44:28 am »

"BONEyard
People always ask why it's unupped. It's unupped because ideally you're going to mutate them anyway or use them as bait so one more attack isn't a big deal, and the boneyard costs two less death. And, more importantly, the AI doesn't target it as high up as graveyard. Since it's your only mass creature generation, you REALLY don't want it destroyed (in some games I even choose to PA it if I don't think I'll need eternity). That's another reason you want 5 hourglasses: late game perm control won't really matter since the AI will target your hourglasses even late game when you don't really need them, saving your boneyard which you do need. "

I think they are better off Un-upped, too. Also, I'm glad you took these 2 ideas, but.. what happened to aflatoxin? I think it was great food AND great mutations. Also, it locked down the FG, at times. Also, Empathic Bonds over Heal.

Since the main damage is mutations, you could switch 1 oty for 1 Fallen Elf.

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Re: Zombie0's FG farming deck, feedback please :D https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16224.msg209138#msg209138
« Reply #30 on: November 25, 2010, 10:46:45 am »
did remove one oty  (-1 oty, not worth relinking the deck imo)

i like upped boneyards.  all FG shields are -2, but against a chanted fire shield 2/2 skellys are a must.  i can see obscure scenarios that smaller skellys are useful (say, squeezing an extra devour with a smaller oty), but overall the passive damage is a bonus versus decay or morte.  of course, unupped is cheaper.  hmm.  both ways have advantages  -edit- testing unupped.  why not?  thats why im asking for changes and feedback :D

if the deck feels successful, will start posting game results.  waiting until the deck doesnt change so often

heal is better.  fat poison stack is dangerous, but if that is the issue replace with purify instead.  many more EM wins, and cheap burst survival compared to virtually useless bonds early.  easier on the life quantum too
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Re: Zombie0's FG farming deck, feedback please :D https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16224.msg209146#msg209146
« Reply #31 on: November 25, 2010, 11:22:59 am »
I see that scorpio and morte, Poison Gods, are gonna give you a hard time. I would definitely add one purify for them, or maybe 2, if they start getting too hard.


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Re: Zombie0's FG farming deck, feedback please :D https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16224.msg209152#msg209152
« Reply #32 on: November 25, 2010, 12:08:05 pm »
just beat dark matter with an EM!  botched the screenshot   :(
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Re: Zombie0's FG farming deck, feedback please :D https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16224.msg209163#msg209163
« Reply #33 on: November 25, 2010, 12:55:10 pm »
Nice! So, how are the stats? I think that the hardest gods you would get to face would be Rainbow, Seism, Morte, Scorpio, and maybe decay.

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Re: Zombie0's FG farming deck, feedback please :D https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16224.msg209185#msg209185
« Reply #34 on: November 25, 2010, 01:37:41 pm »
without actually keeping track, the easiest is decay

permanent destruction is so  :(  but bonewall tricks are really really proving strong.  havent seen any evidence that regular boneyard is costing me anything

rainbow is impossible.  stealing my dials with no PC is death.  at best i can survive till hes at 40 cards left or so.  knowing that winning any cards from rainbow is so rare and long to accomplish...id say this is a skip

morte hasnt been that bad, certainly not as bad as scorpio

seism is an even fight.  much easier than obliterator, as seism cant actually use the pulvy.  fair share of losses of course, but some wins happen

decay is a win 9/10.  lost once recently to early eclipse + drainlife spam + odd quantum distribution, very uncommon.  jade shield = autowin.  he steals my hourglasses and shards, but it only takes a 2 card combo to win.  rainbows do ok against decay, imo

id say scorpio + dark matter are worst.  rainbow doesnt count, i refuse to stack steals just to make him an option (im afraid deck is already too big)

-edit- eternal phoenix is such a jerk.  theoretically i can pull off a win...but it never ever happens
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Re: Zombie0's FG farming deck, feedback please :D https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16224.msg209211#msg209211
« Reply #35 on: November 25, 2010, 02:24:36 pm »
"FG farming deck, shooting for the best win % against everyone, decent % of EM"

XD, Don't skip him, let's try to hope that you get lucky and get a steal mutant. You could also add butterfly effect so you use them on a skeleton or two and then destroy his perms - you are not high on entropy quanta.

 

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