Zombie0's FG farming deck, feedback please :D

[Falcon4415]

-Chaos Lord: kill his shield (with over 200 quanta doing that might be a good idea).
-Elidnis, FFQ and Ferox: didn't notice how you don't have any stall cards. If you did, killing their bonds ensures a faster killing.
-Seism: killing its shield gives you a +3 attack/creature. He won't protect it if it has a pulvy on the field.
-Miracle: destroying its light pillars disables Miracle (the spell).
-Paradox: leaving it without extra drawing makes it easier.

Once you get an Oty out, you won't be needing any more gravity quanta, so you are pretty much safe to use the Pulvy.

[zombie0]

good points.       still suspect pulvy is overrated versus FGs, that it is only a "win-more" and can be lived without

had a (?)brilliant idea.  deck looks like this now

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reasoning?  i can quint an oty, then eat the second creature for the aflatoxin.  unless they can rewind, they might even kill it for me.  also, if oty eats them, i get another cell that turn (yay, bonus cell).  hopefully this solves my issues with getting rushed so often. 

[Dm]

A steal or two for steal fighting for the Vamp Stiletto is awesome. Always. A eternity for not decking out, and maybe another elf. Boneyard would increase the number of eatable critters and bonewall would go well with it, too.

[Ekki]

I wonder if you'll be able to play soo many otys... I'd personally prefer a pulvy and an eternity instead of 2 of them, also a boneyard (unupped)-bone wall combo would be great, but you should have to take out the jade shield and the permafrost, or you risk making your deck too big 

BTW, if you somehow choose to add pulvy and eternity, you should take out the vamp dagger, or change it with... Dunno, maybe, just maybe, steal

[zombie0]

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current build

pros - fire storm helps versus spammy gods

cons - dead card versus high defense / un-targetable creature FGs


really really trying to avoid the "skip this FG, farm this FG".  fire storm is a step in the wrong direction, but not sure what to replace with


steal is a decent card, but its honestly overkill in almost every scenario.  what this deck loses to, steal doesnt fix.  pulv doesnt fix.  not saying lifesteal weapon fixes, but in most scenarios its solid damage that has a lower priority than shards, but heals more

every time i slap down an early eternity, it doesnt fix my problems.  bouncing the dragon thats handing me my a$$...it comes right back =\
making the deck big and redundant enough to not lose if singular important cards are hiding at the bottom DOES smell like inefficiency.  so does adding an expensive late-game bailout card

   i know theres some combo or idea thats missing.  just seems barely out of mind right now



-edit-  can you link what the deck would look like with the bonewall/boneshield idea included?  it sounds crazy death quantum intensive, but maybe its a superior idea?   thanks

[Ekki]

Err, too much fire quanta usage, and entropy too...
Eternity is stall, since you can rewind a 21/21 dragon/deja Vu/Pegasi and screw like 5 miracles, plus the fact that your opponent will have to play it again and lose a draw... It's better that what you think

One fire storm generally is enough, since you shouldn't kill a 12/12 dragon with fire storms, it's not quanta efficient...
If you want, you could take out 2 druids and add antimatter, and maybe also a Firefly Queen (creatures for oty, fire quanta or light if unupped, and good way to redirect CC), since you don't have any air quanta usage...

Sidenote: Try to choose elements you have a low usage if you need some specific effect and have more than one choice... For example if you want somehow PC, you could choose pulvy, deflagration, steal or Butterfly Effect/Mutations, but you should choose the ones that use the least used element's quanta

[Dm]

Eternity helps not only with deckout, but with people like Destiny (Oh the chaos powers!), Paradox (Blessed dejavu's [is it her, anyway?]) etc.

3 firestorms is pretty crazy, 2 is okay.it works great with gods like eternal phoenix

No, there won't be crazy usage of death quantum =P

It would be like this, the deck you posted, - 3 quantum towers ( Seriously, 20?) +2 boneyard +1 bonewall, or if you want 2 bonewalls, -1 electrum hourglass +1 bonewall again. You have 6 electrum hourglass, So aren't you high on time quantum?

[zombie0]

had a (hopefully) brilliant idea!!!

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the ability to lockdown anything, then transition into aflatoxin fodder makes octopus great    permafrost is amazing, but both concepts cant exist due to quantum.  testing this strategy, hoping for the best


some games, eternity would be useful.  if the deck can survive long enough consistently, thats the next improvement

i dont like 3 fallen druids, but the deck has no bite without massive mutates.  every time i cut down to 2, the deck feels a lot weaker =\

since deck isnt , it needs stronger pillar base.  i lose more to lack of quantum than any other reason.

yeah, deck is evolving constantly, but hey!  its a mutate deck.  of course!

[Ekki]

Interesting twist... But you still have 4 elements you aren't using ( and ) and  that you are under-using, and with 20 quantum towers that's A LOT of quanta just to be ignored... Miracle, lava golems, rain of fire, Firefly queen, pulvy are good options, among others like PA or steal... Just remember, try to have always less than 50 cards.

It would be like this, the deck you posted, - 3 quantum towers ( Seriously, 20?) +2 boneyard +1 bonewall, or if you want 2 bonewalls, -1 electrum hourglass +1 bonewall again. You have 6 electrum hourglass, So aren't you high on time quantum?

2 boneyards is too much, and he has already put aflatoxin, so I wonder what'd be the right thing...
He has the mark of time, and with 20 quantum towers the objective should be put out just 2 or 3 to speed up draws, and the rest as a way to protect the rest of the permanents (you don't need PA now that I think of it)

[Dm]

- Firefly Queen. It just works.
- RoF, or deflags. (Empathic bonds?)
- Steal, but he doesn't want to.
- Hmm.. maybe... or maybe.. or.. Nah.


If he doesn't want 2 of each, 1 of each would be okay. They are combo helpers, so yeah. =P Don't really need them, but they help.

[Ekki]

You forgot earth, pulvy is a great reusable PC, even though it might not be useful in this deck... Well, if you don't try, you don't know
Also rage potion could be of use... Never seen it in an otyugh-druid rainbow, but it can be of use, since Rain of Fire (RoF from now on ) is more useful in boneyard-bonewall combos... Anyway, I guess you'll need a bit more of stalling, but I dunno what can be done... Maybe titanium shield (I've never seen it in a rainbow), since 3 defense is something not to laugh at

[Dm]

You forgot earth, pulvy is a great reusable PC, even though it might not be useful in this deck... Well, if you don't try, you don't know
Also rage potion could be of use... Never seen it in an otyugh-druid rainbow, but it can be of use, since Rain of Fire (RoF from now on ) is more useful in boneyard-bonewall combos... Anyway, I guess you'll need a bit more of stalling, but I dunno what can be done... Maybe titanium shield (I've never seen it in a rainbow), since 3 defense is something not to laugh at

If he does that, let's pray that

1 - He adds a Steal so he doesn't gets PC'ed by pulvy or OhKo'd No damage by shield, or

2 - EA.

Also, the rage pots are nice, but RoF is much better used. Also, I can see you are killing a lot in this deck. (Aflatoxin opponent, eat all, or RoF them all) so I would recommend you to add one of these

- Bonewall - It'll raise to incredible numbers here, I think.
- Boneyard - Can I Haz Moar Food?
- Vulture - Check the numbers, man!