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Re: What do you farm Silver league with https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28646.msg368933#msg368933
« Reply #12 on: July 20, 2011, 06:49:44 pm »
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I've been using that deck alot aswel lately and personally don't agree with the crusader suggestion. Archangel can save your butt vs firestalls (wich are very common), that heal ability is not to be underestimated.
Also I don't find double scrambles that useful and even if you think they are, a single flying weapon would be better then the crusader.
Agree, The Archangel won many games for me because it healed creatures that were damaged from poison type decks/Firestalls.
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Re: What do you farm Silver league with https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28646.msg368941#msg368941
« Reply #13 on: July 20, 2011, 07:02:39 pm »
Well I've been using this deck for a very, very long time beginning with the Arena Beta and have found that its use has not faltered once yet.  I've tweaked it a lot and have held off on posting it until it was finalized and I feel like it has been:
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It's basically a combination of Elder Destruction 101 and T50 Destruction 101 with a bit of TADAbow splashed in.  I would have added this to my ___ Destruction 101 series, but because it uses features unique to TADAbow I don't feel right with taking the credit in such a way.  And it absolutely crushes Silver.  It's usually able to shrug off slower Firestalls, stops Life rushes cold with Wings, breaks through Dim Shield chains with Discord/BH, and it has a pretty decent EM rate to top it all off.  I've had a few occasions where I was able to grind 500 electrum in less than 6 minutes, but this is certainly not the norm.

A few possible changes:
The first version I had created used 2 Hourglasses to increase draw rate, but for the life of me I can't remember what I had removed to add that card in.  It definitely needs the 3 BH and 3 Discord.
There have been times where I used a Steal instead of the Gargoyle, but this gives it much more rushing ability which is important against opponents with higher HPs.  It's also useful against Firestalls on occasion by giving the AI bait to waste Lances/Bolts against (this is of course assuming its ability has been activated already).
You can try it with a Crusader instead of an Archangel, but I've personally found the Angel to be more useful for the most part.
I wouldn't advise switching the Phase Recluse for a TU because you need the Recluse + Wings combo very, very often.

It's able to grind Gold somewhat effectively, but it's much more effective against Silver.
In my list of deck codes, I refer to this as Arena Destruction 101.  Seems fitting.

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Re: What do you farm Silver league with https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28646.msg373034#msg373034
« Reply #14 on: July 29, 2011, 08:36:12 am »
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I think you're overestimating Discord / Black hole combo against mono aether decks. My experiences have been that it's very hard to pull off successful quanta denial on mono decks: you either lack early Discord, timely Black holes or the opponent just outproduces aether quanta to have 6 available on his turn. Once Dimension shield is in place, he's free to gain more quanta and draw another dimensional shield for 3 turns, which usually results in loss.

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Re: What do you farm Silver league with https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28646.msg373125#msg373125
« Reply #15 on: July 29, 2011, 02:37:18 pm »
Yes I said it usually breaks through them because the likelihood of you not drawing a Discord or a BH in your opening hand is very low.  Usually I manipulate the AI by using BH to either deny it of the quanta it needs to play Dim Shields or to put it into the range where it can play something more expensive and then not have enough quanta to play another shield.  For instance, my opponents has 21 :aether, and is using Mono Aether with few Phase Dragons on the field.  I can therefore assume that if I BH their quanta to 18 :aether that they will play a Phase Dragon and not have the quanta to play a Dim Shield.  Oh yes and the deck has a lone Explosion; if you're that concerned about Dim Shield chaining then you should probably swap the Gargoyle out for a Steal.  I'm not saying that it always breaks through them, just that it's happened more often than not based on my experience.  And in my experience these decks aren't (or I suppose I should say haven't been) anywhere near the top of the threat list.
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Re: What do you farm Silver league with https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28646.msg373764#msg373764
« Reply #16 on: July 30, 2011, 08:17:49 pm »
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For my ImmoRush decks I prefer running Damselflies and Gnome Gemfinders to photons, since you only use photons if you can't afford to upgrade either of those. Damselflies for that +1 attack, Gemfinders for the extra earth quanta since when you have 3 or so golems going against something like a miracle stall the increased earth income helps. I know they're technically fodder but there are niche situations where you want them. Whether its worth the upgrade I'm not sure, but I have my damsels upgraded for my air rush anyway.

Also to comment on the above, Black Discord "crushes" mono aether in my experience, only really failing if you can somehow get your first dim shield up, but somehow against these decks discord is 'always' in the opening hand.

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Re: What do you farm Silver league with https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28646.msg417409#msg417409
« Reply #17 on: October 29, 2011, 02:07:49 pm »
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Re: What do you farm Silver league with https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28646.msg429331#msg429331
« Reply #18 on: November 22, 2011, 08:36:06 pm »
Well I've been using this deck for a very, very long time beginning with the Arena Beta and have found that its use has not faltered once yet.  I've tweaked it a lot and have held off on posting it until it was finalized and I feel like it has been:
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It's basically a combination of Elder Destruction 101 and T50 Destruction 101 with a bit of TADAbow splashed in.  I would have added this to my ___ Destruction 101 series, but because it uses features unique to TADAbow I don't feel right with taking the credit in such a way.  And it absolutely crushes Silver.  It's usually able to shrug off slower Firestalls, stops Life rushes cold with Wings, breaks through Dim Shield chains with Discord/BH, and it has a pretty decent EM rate to top it all off.  I've had a few occasions where I was able to grind 500 electrum in less than 6 minutes, but this is certainly not the norm.

A few possible changes:
The first version I had created used 2 Hourglasses to increase draw rate, but for the life of me I can't remember what I had removed to add that card in.  It definitely needs the 3 BH and 3 Discord.
There have been times where I used a Steal instead of the Gargoyle, but this gives it much more rushing ability which is important against opponents with higher HPs.  It's also useful against Firestalls on occasion by giving the AI bait to waste Lances/Bolts against (this is of course assuming its ability has been activated already).
You can try it with a Crusader instead of an Archangel, but I've personally found the Angel to be more useful for the most part.
I wouldn't advise switching the Phase Recluse for a TU because you need the Recluse + Wings combo very, very often.

It's able to grind Gold somewhat effectively, but it's much more effective against Silver.
I use a variation of the Arena Destruction 101.  Here's mine:
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I have played it with the Archangel swapped for a crusader and can go either way, the big advantage of the crusader is when you get a bad draw and are short on pillars/supernovas, you can get the crusader out quicker and hopefully save a bad draw.  The Improved Steals make dealing with the current Phase Shield chain trend easy to deal with and GOTP/Nightmare is usually no match for this deck either unless you get a crap draw (You filled my hand with GOTP?  Thank you!  *Plays them*)

I have been using it for awhile and the stats from just today are here:
Final 50 game stats for today:
Games: 50
Wins: 39
Losses: 11
EM: 17
Special Spins: 6

It usually gets around 75-85% win rate for me.

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Re: What do you farm Silver league with https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28646.msg429334#msg429334
« Reply #19 on: November 22, 2011, 08:51:42 pm »
I have been using it for awhile and the stats from just today are here:
Games: 31
Wins: 21
Losses: 6
EM: 9
Special Spins: 3

It usually gets around 75-85% win rate for me.
21+6=31?

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Re: What do you farm Silver league with https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28646.msg429335#msg429335
« Reply #20 on: November 22, 2011, 08:54:06 pm »
Lol, fixed.

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Re: What do you farm Silver league with https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28646.msg430203#msg430203
« Reply #21 on: November 24, 2011, 09:33:20 pm »
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I've been using that deck alot aswel lately and personally don't agree with the crusader suggestion. Archangel can save your butt vs firestalls (wich are very common), that heal ability is not to be underestimated.
Also I don't find double scrambles that useful and even if you think they are, a single flying weapon would be better then the crusader.
Agree, The Archangel won many games for me because it healed creatures that were damaged from poison type decks/Firestalls.
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Re: What do you farm Silver league with https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28646.msg430230#msg430230
« Reply #22 on: November 24, 2011, 10:28:22 pm »
Don't really farm silver much. Either go for bronze (for rare spins) or gold (cash).

I don't always farm silver, but when I do, I use tha old gold league killer.

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Re: What do you farm Silver league with https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28646.msg433112#msg433112
« Reply #23 on: December 01, 2011, 01:02:27 am »
I generally just farm gold with JMZ
but I do sometimes crash the silver arena party with JMZ too
How successful are you? I seem to have horrid luck with the [Sader/Pulvy +3SoSer] JMZ in gold. I stick to silver as that is like 90% win rate. Gold seems more like 33% which is not fly.

 

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