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Re: What deck to use to beat Gold League? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28416.msg368465#msg368465
« Reply #24 on: July 19, 2011, 09:19:24 pm »
>JMZ classic was for silver, not bronze

Tested with Bronze and Silver, too yeasterday. Played just a several games each, though. And at Silver, about 50 to 60% win percentage, maybe?
But the letdown towards the deck made me stop quickly.
Wow that surprises me because it's more like 80-90% for silver and 50-60% for gold with JMZ.  But then again the variety of decks could influence win % on a daily basis.  Sometimes I can win 10 in a row in silver and other times I lose 4 in a row, but 50-60% seems way too low from what I've experienced, as well as what others have said.

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Re: What deck to use to beat Gold League? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28416.msg368637#msg368637
« Reply #25 on: July 20, 2011, 02:49:33 am »
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The v2 deck didn't work, either.
The problem is obviously the draw percentage of Gnome Gemfinder at the bigining of the game.
The percentage of drawing one Gnome Gemfinder in the first 8 cards is 1.548. I think that it's too low.
In many occasions, I couldn't draw single Gemfinder in a couple of turns, and without a Gemfinder in your hand, you cannot do anything, you cannot even start your game, which is the biggest issue of this deck.
So I think that I will add a few Photon to the deck, which would make the quanta generating process smooth and consistent.
Other Tweaks could be subtraction of either a Lava or a Phoenix, -1 Gravity Force, or -2 Explosion, to make the deck 30 cards.

But even after solving the issue of generating quanta, the vulnerability of creatures remains.
CC like Otyugh, Rewind, Eternity, Fire Storm, Lighting, Plague ... Just too many to list all of them.
That is why you have to optimize the speed of the deck, which is the only way to win consistent with this deck.

Anyway I will test the deck with adding Photons (actually RoLs).

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Re: What deck to use to beat Gold League? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28416.msg368648#msg368648
« Reply #26 on: July 20, 2011, 03:08:19 am »
>JMZ classic was for silver, not bronze

Tested with Bronze and Silver, too yeasterday. Played just a several games each, though. And at Silver, about 50 to 60% win percentage, maybe?
But the letdown towards the deck made me stop quickly.
Wow that surprises me because it's more like 80-90% for silver and 50-60% for gold with JMZ.  But then again the variety of decks could influence win % on a daily basis.  Sometimes I can win 10 in a row in silver and other times I lose 4 in a row, but 50-60% seems way too low from what I've experienced, as well as what others have said.
Yes, I think that since Top 500 decks are changing continuously, a wining percentage for a particular deck would vary in both a short run and a long run for different reasons. In a long run, Top 500 decks could go towards either more competitive and tough or mix of fun decks and serious decks.

Anyhow, my experience of Speedbow decks has been just a couple of hours. So I'll rethink about the deck and maybe tweak it a little bit after testing it again.

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Re: What deck to use to beat Gold League? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28416.msg368691#msg368691
« Reply #27 on: July 20, 2011, 04:52:05 am »
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I've tweaked the v2 deck and saw some improvement, won four in a raw, and got a special spin.

Next, I will teak a little farther and try these two.
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Just a couple of cheap, but effective shields added. Fire Buckler could be effective too.

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Re: What deck to use to beat Gold League? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28416.msg369935#msg369935
« Reply #28 on: July 22, 2011, 07:11:25 pm »
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Dune Scorpion Neurotoxin deck I've made.
Have had some success, have taken down a few top 10 rankers, but like other decks I'd tested including Rol / Hope deck, not consistent.
Nonetheless I guess worth trying it.

Next, I'm trying to build a deck to submit to the Gold League with 59 or 60 level.
It's going to be a Pest / Quicksand deck since Oracle gave me 5 Vampires which I do not necessarily want but have to exploit nonetheless.
it's goint to be about a 60 cards deck, so it will take a while to build the deck.
Little tired and got bored now, so I'll slow down, and it'll be about one week project.

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Re: What deck to use to beat Gold League? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28416.msg370214#msg370214
« Reply #29 on: July 23, 2011, 12:43:16 pm »
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Dune Scorpion Neurotoxin deck I've made.
Have had some success, have taken down a few top 10 rankers, but like other decks I'd tested including Rol / Hope deck, not consistent.
Nonetheless I guess worth trying it.

Next, I'm trying to build a deck to submit to the Gold League with 59 or 60 level.
It's going to be a Pest / Quicksand deck since Oracle gave me 5 Vampires which I do not necessarily want but have to exploit nonetheless.
it's goint to be about a 60 cards deck, so it will take a while to build the deck.
Little tired and got bored now, so I'll slow down, and it'll be about one week project.

Since there are many rushers in Gold, this won't work very well.
Even with those rewinds, you won't stop rushes.

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Re: What deck to use to beat Gold League? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28416.msg371457#msg371457
« Reply #30 on: July 25, 2011, 11:44:00 pm »
3 phoenix, 1 gavel, 3 gnome gemfields, 5 burning towers, 1 fire lance, 2 explosions, 6 cremations, 6 lava destroyers, 3 minor phoenix's.
It's Sev's version of vNG, except I made it -1 crimson dragon, -1 burning tower, +1 fire lance, +1 phoenix. After recording 250 games, I had a 55% win rate, and this is a rush deck, so games go fast =D

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Re: What deck to use to beat Gold League? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28416.msg371608#msg371608
« Reply #31 on: July 26, 2011, 06:08:46 am »
Any idea about how many score you won ?
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Re: What deck to use to beat Gold League? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28416.msg371653#msg371653
« Reply #32 on: July 26, 2011, 09:38:47 am »
I will not tell you what I exaclty use but give you some help : almost every deck use lava destroyer, abyss crawler, flesh/phase recluse, giant frog, cocatrixx.. All this creature have one common point, this is their big weakness. Find it and you are on the good way ;)
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Re: What deck to use to beat Gold League? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28416.msg371768#msg371768
« Reply #33 on: July 26, 2011, 02:52:07 pm »
Any idea about how many score you won ?
I have the table with how much electrum I gained for each match. In 250 games I gained 15,762 electrum (not counting electrum gained after the spins start, or from selling cards)
Not sure what the relation is between electrum gain and score gain is though.

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Re: What deck to use to beat Gold League? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28416.msg371802#msg371802
« Reply #34 on: July 26, 2011, 04:27:52 pm »
electrum gain is ~~ score gain but with some difference though, specially in arena I guess.

(I know that EM an AI3 give 40 electrum and 35 score).
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Re: What deck to use to beat Gold League? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28416.msg372168#msg372168
« Reply #35 on: July 27, 2011, 11:41:25 am »
I have tried many decks without success , won t generally pass 3 win 3 loss.

But I got a deck recently that in 3 days got a surprising good score , already almost in top 50 ,
I got firesome as a card to choose , so I have 5 firestorm , 6 farheineit , 6 firelance ,  6 animated weapon , 6 deflagration and the rest is burning tower , no creatures at all ( except for animated weapons )

28 won , 3 loss
rating : 106
rank : 53

Even I can t beat my own deck in test :)

I guess it does well against rush decks ... it build up damage pretty quickly as the it has 2 marks of fire and 2 cards draw ... quite amazing.

Let see where it will go :) , good luck if you meet my deck.

 

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