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Water Killer [Water Mono/ Needs Help] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36193.msg455174#msg455174
« on: January 31, 2012, 03:50:12 am »
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Well, it's effective facing AI1 & 2.  But I see that facing  :aether or  :darkness AI3 is like waiting for death coz of Dimensional Shield or Bone shield.
Needs comments for Improvements.

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Re: Water Killer [Water Mono/ Needs Help] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36193.msg455179#msg455179
« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2012, 04:05:37 am »
Purify out, change pends to pillars, change Ice Shield to Fog Shield, add Ice Bolt, use mark of  :air
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Re: Water Killer [Water Mono/ Needs Help] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36193.msg455189#msg455189
« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2012, 04:38:12 am »
Purify out, change pends to pillars, change Ice Shield to Fog Shield, add Ice Bolt, use mark of  :air
What absol just said. Alternatively freezes can do good.
PVE shouldn't be all about copying a deck code and converting time into electrum, score, and potentially rares.
If the only way to derive fun from a game is its PVP content, then non-hardcore players a.k.a. the mass are alienated from the hardcore community.

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Re: Water Killer [Water Mono/ Needs Help] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36193.msg455214#msg455214
« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2012, 06:19:22 am »
Purify out, change pends to pillars, change Ice Shield to Fog Shield, add Ice Bolt, use mark of  :air
What absol just said. Alternatively freezes can do good.
Use one or the other.
Freeze if you need more  :water, Ice Bolt if you need more damage.
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Re: Water Killer [Water Mono/ Needs Help] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36193.msg455216#msg455216
« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2012, 06:27:07 am »
Purify out, change pends to pillars, change Ice Shield to Fog Shield, add Ice Bolt, use mark of  :air
What absol just said. Alternatively freezes can do good.
Use one or the other.
Freeze if you need more  :water, Ice Bolt if you need more damage.
Freeze immobilises the victim 100%, letting the toadfish infection grind them down, slower but better damage than ice bolts IMO.
Also, if you're changing mark to :air, get a short bow too.
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Re: Water Killer [Water Mono/ Needs Help] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36193.msg455271#msg455271
« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2012, 11:38:20 am »
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Purify out,
I don' t think so, if the opponent have poison damage, purifiy is a good prevent. And if you want fast kills, you can use shockwave with freezes.

If you want only water. Just upgrade your toadfish in puffer fish. But cause you won't kill creatures, flooding could be interesting.

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Re: Water Killer [Water Mono/ Needs Help] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36193.msg455288#msg455288
« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2012, 01:26:59 pm »
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Purify out,
I don' t think so, if the opponent have poison damage, purifiy is a good prevent. And if you want fast kills, you can use shockwave with freezes.

If you want only water. Just upgrade your toadfish in puffer fish. But cause you won't kill creatures, flooding could be interesting.
If the opponent has heavy poison, you are as good as dead, trying to fish that one card in 30-card deck.
If the opponent has light poison (arsenic in rainbow),  you might as well ignore it and replace the purify with hard hitter.
If the opponent has no poison, well...

Shockwave + Freeze is only useful against massive creature. It's nearly always beter for Freeze + Inflate.

Seeing that he only included one Puffer Fish, it's safe to assume that he don't have enough money. Hence the water/air version.
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Re: Water Killer [Water Mono/ Needs Help] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36193.msg455299#msg455299
« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2012, 02:11:24 pm »
Shockwave + Freeze is only useful against massive creature. It's nearly always beter for Freeze + Inflate.
Even against massive creatures, you would prefer to stack infection counters on it rather than shockwave it... freeze+shockwave is kinda impractical unless you spam them (and even you do, 2-card combo for single CC effect sucks).
The puffer fish is not as good as toadfish for this deck's purpose, though. It takes 5 (4+5+6+7+8 vs 6x5) turns to catch up with the damage dealt by toadfish while losing CC potential. Although it would be more powerful than the toadfish after that, the general goal is to take down the enemy within 10 turns for effective farming.
PVE shouldn't be all about copying a deck code and converting time into electrum, score, and potentially rares.
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Re: Water Killer [Water Mono/ Needs Help] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36193.msg455527#msg455527
« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2012, 04:51:23 am »
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Now I got Duo with Air so it's better to have owl's eye.
And also, freezes with Shockwaves.

 :water:air Duo tested nice facing AI1,2,3

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Re: Water Killer [Water Mono/ Needs Help] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36193.msg455540#msg455540
« Reply #9 on: February 01, 2012, 05:25:15 am »
Not enough  :water, too many  :air.
You are using 2-card combo, which can otherwise be achieved (nearly) using one card.
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Re: Water Killer [Water Mono/ Needs Help] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36193.msg455567#msg455567
« Reply #10 on: February 01, 2012, 08:58:48 am »
Not enough  :water, too many  :air.
You are using 2-card combo, which can otherwise be achieved (nearly) using one card.
What should i do to get more  :water?

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Re: Water Killer [Water Mono/ Needs Help] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36193.msg455579#msg455579
« Reply #11 on: February 01, 2012, 10:31:00 am »
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That's what me and Mathematistic means. Water splash Air.
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