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Vampire/Fractal https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28280.msg361190#msg361190
« on: July 05, 2011, 04:32:05 pm »
This is my Vampire Fractal Deck.

Im new to this so plz help in me by giving me critiques. Thank You!!
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(P.S. I only have one upgraded card and that is nightfall/eclipse. What others should I do to make this deck better and in waht order if any?

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Re: Vampire/Fractal https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28280.msg361195#msg361195
« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2011, 04:44:54 pm »
6 steals are suicide,add in some devourers,change to pendulums.
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Re: Vampire/Fractal https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28280.msg361196#msg361196
« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2011, 04:57:10 pm »
I need Reasons why. Not just Answers. I have to understand why it is you would do it differently...

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Re: Vampire/Fractal https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28280.msg361197#msg361197
« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2011, 04:58:34 pm »
In keeping with the theme of your deck, I'll suggest the following changes:

Pendulums are a solid choice for any Fractal deck... maybe try switching the MARK to :aether and changing the Aether Pillars to Darkness Pendulums. That way you're guaranteed to have both types of quanta. Also you can drop a couple Obsidian Pillars.

Another suggestion would be to try to trim it down. 6 Steals might be a bit much. Perhaps, drop 3-4 Steals, 1 Dusk Mantle, and 1 Nightfall.

This will drop the deck size into a nice 31-33 card range. A smaller deck would mean getting the Minor Vampires Fractal'd faster.

Hope you like any of the suggestions.

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Re: Vampire/Fractal https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28280.msg361201#msg361201
« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2011, 05:11:40 pm »
thank you for the response. and just to put the idea of the deck out there is to have good low- mid strength champs with constantant healing, disabling of enemy relics and equipment, and good defense to bide time. Thus the steals and the duck sheilds. (im not disputing what you say im going to try that out. Also the fractal/vampire cost a lost of mana so i need to make sure i have them in mass.)

Also what type of chards should i upgrade first and formost compared to others?

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Re: Vampire/Fractal https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28280.msg361209#msg361209
« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2011, 05:28:59 pm »
remove 3 nightfall.
remove 4 steals and 2 dusk mantles OR remove 3 steals and 3 dusk mantles.
add 6 devourers.
add the rare vampire weapon if you have one:

you can replace the pillars with pendulum if it's not too expensive.

Generally if you are able to use fractal before turn 7, or if the opponent only has a few pillars: fractal the devourers. This will put the opponent in a quanta lock and it will be next to impossible to get out of it. After that you can just fractal the vampires and win the game.

All your steals, nightfalls and shields will only make the opponent last longer because it will take longer before your vampire army is up. The goal of this deck to get them up ASAP. A few steals and / or a dusk mantle are good because you will need to have at least some control of the opponent. Dusk mantles are good against other mass decks (like mass scarab / pharaoh and mass firefly / firefly queen). You could also consider some

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Re: Vampire/Fractal https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28280.msg361212#msg361212
« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2011, 05:35:07 pm »
...Anjer, if he wanted to build a Devtal... he would have just built a Devtal......

The title of this thread is Vampire/Fractal.

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As for which cards to upgrade first....
Nightfall -> Eclipse - would probably make the biggest impact. More damage means more healing.
Fractal - the 1 quanta decrease can often make a whole turn difference in your Fractaling speed.
Vampires - The increased damage comes with an increased cost. These might be the last things you upgrade for this deck.
Dusk Mantle & Steal - Lower cost.. always better.
Obsidian Pillars & Darkness Pendulums - Speeds up the deck more, enabling more Vampires when you Fractal. (Usually only makes a great impact when you have several upgraded)

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Re: Vampire/Fractal https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28280.msg361217#msg361217
« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2011, 05:46:15 pm »
hmm... i tried the dev.-vamp./fractal befor but it seems to me why wast a fract on a dev when u need them form the vamps? I only have 3-4 in my deck and i need to amke sure i have them in time. rather than stalling them with dev's. and i need at least one nightfall and one or more dusksheilds wo controle the match rather than just hopeing for lucky draws. Ur deck seems to be very luck based and have few back ups if something goes wrong.

I wish i had a vamp weapon or a few that woudl help a lot.

Should i go with all Pendulums of stick with this set up?


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Re: Vampire/Fractal https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28280.msg361232#msg361232
« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2011, 06:19:40 pm »
For now, my suggestion would be to test it.. get a feel for the quanta flow and see if you're coming up short on :darkness or :aether, then adjust accordingly.

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Re: Vampire/Fractal https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28280.msg361368#msg361368
« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2011, 10:49:25 pm »
hmm... i tried the dev.-vamp./fractal befor but it seems to me why wast a fract on a dev when u need them form the vamps? I only have 3-4 in my deck and i need to amke sure i have them in time. rather than stalling them with dev's. and i need at least one nightfall and one or more dusksheilds wo controle the match rather than just hopeing for lucky draws. Ur deck seems to be very luck based and have few back ups if something goes wrong.

I wish i had a vamp weapon or a few that woudl help a lot.

Should i go with all Pendulums of stick with this set up?


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His deck is NOT luck based.
ON Topic: Full pends are slower to start but get more powerful near the end.
Full Pends:
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While Nightfall is decent, I don't think it is worth it, until it is upped

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Re: Vampire/Fractal https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28280.msg361799#msg361799
« Reply #10 on: July 06, 2011, 02:39:39 pm »
How does this look for my vamp/fractal deck?

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Re: Vampire/Fractal https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28280.msg361912#msg361912
« Reply #11 on: July 06, 2011, 04:58:39 pm »
looks pretty good.  However, in my opinion, I think you're still a little heavy on steals...  maybe -1 steal and leave it at that.  I usually get rid of as many cards I can to get the deck going faster, and by removing 1 steal, I really think you can reduce the number of bad draws and have more quanta for the shield or vampires. 

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