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Vampire power (entropy/darkness AI3) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26622.msg338384#msg338384
« on: May 22, 2011, 03:34:57 am »
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There's no need for strategy, fly daggers, cp them, eclipse for a boost, antimatter for the strongest creatures.
It might need some quanta balancing, but i've been trying it and it works great so far.
Further testing and stats soon, but i wanted some feedback first.
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Re: Vampire power (entropy/darkness AI3) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26622.msg340324#msg340324
« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2011, 07:00:06 pm »
<- ??? is mark
Delete 8pt from the code end.
And for what kind of Ai you use?
For Ai3/pvp/T50:It is too slow,maybe some vampires instead of AM.In that case remove the entropy pendulums and add darkness towers with entropy mark.
For Ai5:Use more pends with 6 SoGs.
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Re: Vampire power (entropy/darkness AI3) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26622.msg340500#msg340500
« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2011, 09:39:00 pm »
<- ??? is mark
Delete 8pt from the code end.
And for what kind of Ai you use?
For Ai3/pvp/T50:It is too slow,maybe some vampires instead of AM.In that case remove the entropy pendulums and add darkness towers with entropy mark.
For Ai5:Use more pends with 6 SoGs.
I don't remove the mark because i hate having to change marks when changing decks.
It's not actually for AI's, although it does work, its mostly for fun.
EDIT: Oh, i think i made this for AI3, according to the title. I forgot about that :/


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Re: Vampire power (entropy/darkness AI3) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26622.msg340506#msg340506
« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2011, 09:42:59 pm »
Not really sure this is suited for AI3, maybe PVP2 or such... also misclicking antimatter targets to your field will result in rage on your part :P

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Re: Vampire power (entropy/darkness AI3) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26622.msg340511#msg340511
« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2011, 09:45:19 pm »
Maybe, although this would make it a bit slower, add a turquoise nymph or quints, along with a few pillars. But it would protect you from RT
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Re: Vampire power (entropy/darkness AI3) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26622.msg340606#msg340606
« Reply #5 on: May 26, 2011, 12:10:01 am »
Note: I do realize that vamps and bless/momentum would be more effective, but there is a deck like that already, right?
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Re: Vampire power (entropy/darkness AI3) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26622.msg373887#msg373887
« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2011, 05:14:10 am »
Hey Jocko. I'm trolling the Deck Help section looking for stuff to review as part of the Darkness Trials, and this deck caught my eye.

First off, good job. Darkness decks tend to get EM's quite effectively, and this deck of yours is a good example of why. It has healing + healing and for a change of pace, MOAR HEALING! It makes for a nice boost to score/electrum gains.

Actually, it might have TOO much healing. I can't help but think the antimatters could be replaced. While Antimatter is an excellent card, vanilla high attack creatures are not as much of a threat to this deck, due to all your vampiric healing. I'd rather see some control cards to help deal with less straight-forward threats. Some alternative cards that might be worth adding:
Steals: Having at least some PC is almost always helpful, especially for the many dangerous weapons and shields. Dim shields or Eternity are particularly threatening to this deck.
Lycans: cheap and effective, these offer to boost the speed and max damage of the deck, so that hopefully you can rush your opponent before they find a way to stop your daggers.
Siphon Life: It's cheap, and although it's effectiveness is limited somewhat by the small amount of quanta in this deck, It's often valuable to have some way of just killing an obnoxious critter such as a mind flayer or nymph

Personally, I tend to find 3 eclipses to be overkill, especially since this deck has so few creatures (which diminishes how valuable a blanket bonus is).

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Hopefully this will be helpful, or at least good food-for-thought.

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Re: Vampire power (entropy/darkness AI3) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26622.msg373894#msg373894
« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2011, 06:09:44 am »
Your entropy qi is 10 and you cant expect to play a dagger until turn 3, i dont see this being a great ai3 decks when there aee faster alternatives capable of 70%+ em, maybe ditch the am, go to darkness pends and entropy mark or just darkness towers cos seeds can be run off marks. You have any stats for this?

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Re: Vampire power (entropy/darkness AI3) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26622.msg374119#msg374119
« Reply #8 on: August 01, 2011, 12:22:22 am »
Hello Jocko my friend!  You certainly caught my eye combining the power of entropy with darkness.  It seems its main weakness are reverse time, shields, and lack of speed.  Also I noted you wanted to keep this a duo, so sighed and put my supernovas aside.  To address reverse time I first thought of cloak (later discarding for speed.)  Lack of shield seemed to be an easy fix either with butterfly effect or improved steal.  The problem with butterfly effect is I needed a creature.  While Pest is a great option, it lacks speed and and doesn't focus on your main combo of Vampire Dagger, Animate Weapon, and Chaos Power.  So with Steal in hand, I set out to increase the speed of this deck.  First off with entropy pendulums, you are playing your dagger turn 3 at the earliest.  To increase the speed we either need supernovas (which I promised I wouldn't use), obsidian towers, or dark pendulums.  Obviously the latter providing more entropy throughout the duel.  Looking over what would fit in best with vampire daggers, obviously chaos power, the only thing that really stood out to me was werewolf which is still relatively low in cost.  The antimatters were simply just healing overkill.  Also I wouldn't want to use more than 2 nightfalls and with 6 creatures that could possibly benefit from it I dropped those as well.  Down to a skeleton frame of your main combo and steals, I looked over darkness again for what could push you a turn faster or hit past that shield for the last bit.  Siphon life was an obvious choice but I wasn't sure how much quanta it would produce.  Nightmare though looked wonderful as a finisher, draw stopper, and cheap!  I played a few games at this point with obsidian towers and cloaks but found on ai3 I wasn't hitting too much reverse time and I was still producing a decent ammount of darkness quanta with only six towers.  At this point I figured speed was better than any defense I could muster and added the siphon life.  So hope this kept your main idea intact Jocko!

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Alternitively if you liked the idea with Werewolfs here you go as well!

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Re: Vampire power (entropy/darkness AI3) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26622.msg374205#msg374205
« Reply #9 on: August 01, 2011, 06:18:10 am »
i like the deck but my some people have already beaten my to helping you but lets see if i cant help also so far the basic thing of this deck is HEALING ftw and alot i like it already but as two people suggested the antimatters arent needing specially since ur uping ur dags with cp. so something nice to add to the deck would be steals as already said or even a upgraded duskmantle or two or both O>O say what? i know crazy right but the duskmantle would allow 50% chance for creatures not hitting you thats a lot of damage being negated. along with your healing you could em alot maybe even em some gold leaguer's.

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Re: Vampire power (entropy/darkness AI3) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26622.msg374320#msg374320
« Reply #10 on: August 01, 2011, 04:13:31 pm »
You are all probably right, i never balanced this deck or tested it, and i know there are much faster decks out there. Removing the antimatters makes sense, and so does changing the mark to entropy. Although probably it will be more efficient with vamps, since it saves some cards.

 

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