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Blood Sapping army Balancing https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56689.msg1166824#msg1166824
« on: November 19, 2014, 04:40:26 am »
I don't know much about balancing decks.. so can anyone give me some help balancing this?
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-Novas instead of pillars because vampire stiletto and flying weapons both only cost 1
- Rage potion just there for extra help if it shows up.
-momentum to block shields.
-Crusaders to endow vampire stiletto after it is about 15 damage.

EDIT: Didn't even realize I had a sactuary in there...must of showed up on accident. Maybe replace it with another blessing.

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Re: Blood Sapping army Balancing https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56689.msg1166836#msg1166836
« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2014, 05:14:29 am »
This deck is trying an awkward balance between 2 decks.
The following is a rough sketch of the 2 decks, using minimum upgrades. Build one of these decks.

Vadersader
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(I've never seen an unupped version of this deck.)

You're trying to do both decks, and they conflict - crusaders are slow, but the second deck needs to be mostly up and running turn 1-2. Crusaders need a good quanta base (They essentially cost 8 :light), But you need the novas for momentum and Flying weapon.

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Re: Blood Sapping army Balancing https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56689.msg1166887#msg1166887
« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2014, 03:06:11 pm »
You mean to tell me someone already made a deck like this?
Is there anything not thought of? XD

Anyways, the first deck doesn't seem appealing to me because it doesn't have flying weapons ergo can't enhance with blessing, momentum, or rage potion.

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Re: Blood Sapping army Balancing https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56689.msg1166904#msg1166904
« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2014, 04:52:08 pm »
The classic "Saders" deck is a Trio, using flying weapon (upgraded if possible) to be able to bless a Stiletto so the crusaders gain that attack too. It's very rare to see it unupped because it requires early   :air quanta and the  :light consumption is pretty high, so the balance is tricky.
With upgraded Animate Weapons, it's still a good Gold grinder.
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Re: Blood Sapping army Balancing https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56689.msg1166964#msg1166964
« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2014, 08:02:30 pm »
I seem to always have enought  :light quantum. Trying to find a way to balance it out better with the crusaders.

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Re: Blood Sapping army Balancing https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56689.msg1167038#msg1167038
« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2014, 12:11:00 am »
I seem to always have enought  :light quantum.
Sure, because you have 2 crusaders, no 6 with 4-5 blessings :p
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Re: Blood Sapping army Balancing https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56689.msg1167064#msg1167064
« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2014, 01:57:57 am »
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Sure, because you have 2 crusaders, no 6 with 4-5 blessings :p

Actually  3 crusaders, 1 is upped.

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Re: Blood Sapping army Balancing https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56689.msg1167077#msg1167077
« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2014, 02:31:52 am »
Have done unupped sader/villeto/sop before, and quite succssfully. Sundials are nessasary.

 

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