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are 500EM decks still efficient in the current version? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37628.msg472672#msg472672
« on: March 20, 2012, 05:12:59 pm »
Hi there,

Lately I have been attracted to the 500EM decks. It is an aspect of the game I haven't tried yet.
However when I search the forum for decks, I notice that they are all very outdated (2010) and since that time, the 75-quanta cap and the nerf of SoG have occured and possibly made these decks useless.

So I was wondering, before spending a lot of electrum to upgrade cards like Stone Skin, if there was a 500EM deck that still worked great today?

Thank you for your advice :)

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Re: are 500EM decks still efficient in the current version? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37628.msg472691#msg472691
« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2012, 06:08:35 pm »
Quanta cap didn't really affect Stone Skin, as it had a maximum gain of 75HP to begin with. SoG nerf isn't too much of a problem, since there's always the option of running :earth :light for Stone Skin + Miracle + Sanctuary or just taking a :life mark for the 5HP heal from SoG.
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Re: are 500EM decks still efficient in the current version? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37628.msg472772#msg472772
« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2012, 11:13:07 pm »
I use 500 hp EM decks regularly for certain oracle predictions, since the payoff is higher that way.  (probably not as time efficient, but I like big numbers :D )  When the arena first came out, I used it and made a lot of score even though it didn't win a lot of games.  I think other decks are probably better against the arena, especially if your goal is special spins; if you just want score, it's alright, but even there, there's probably better ones.

I don't have a lot of stats for 500hp EM against oracle predictions, but against Jezebel I'm 3-0 and against Octane I'm 3-1.  (started keeping track fairly recently)  I'd expect those two to be almost sure things with 500hp EM, at least using the builds I have, which in both their cases use reflective shield.  A few other FGs could probably be beaten if you used a rainbow 500hp EM for eternity; the two above were earth/light duos.  Against Decay and Neptune, for example, a 500hp EM deck earth/light duo without eternity lost to deckout, paradoxically because they are the two worst FG decks :p  Their hands clog up with stuff like flooding or siphon life or whatever and they stop double-drawing.

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Re: are 500EM decks still efficient in the current version? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37628.msg472951#msg472951
« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2012, 02:41:33 pm »
Thank you for the answers! I guess I should read the cards...  :-[

Dragonsdemesne, did you post your 500EM deck anywhere? (and if not, would you mind?......) Jezebel is one of the FG I have the hardest time with (as neither mono-Aether nor Instosis works on a fairly regular basis... or maybe it is just me...)

 

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