Trying to build solid FG farmer. Cant seem to win. Lots of upgrades.

[chrisbenton876]

by chrisbenton876

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This is my deck. I have been building it for a while. I'm not sure if I have the wrong cards or to many. I do win with it just not often enough to make it work. I end up losing all my Electrum and having to start building it up from level 2 or 3. This really makes the process drag on even longer. My goal would be to modify this deck to be able to consistently beat FG's. At least 50% of the time would be nice. These are all the cards I currently have. In the long run I would like to be able to build a second PVP deck that I would be able to switch between and mix and match for tournaments. I have seen the FG deck section and rather than just coping one of them and trying to buy the cards and upgrade the ones I do not have I would like to modify this deck if possible. Thanks for all the help.

[pikachufan2164]

It's a mixture of taking the wrong cards, and having too many cards with no way to draw them.

If you want to go with a standard 60-card Timebow approach, then you'll need 22 Quantum Towers (no Supernova, as their effectiveness decreases as your deck size increases), 6 Sundial, and 6 Hourglasses, with a Time mark. You'll also want more SoG, and Quints as well.

Cards like Maxwell's Demon, Mummy, Forest Spirit, Chimera, Phase Dragon, and Steam Machine are rather unneeded as you have three different endgame creature generation engines in Oty+Graveyard+Druid, Oty+Graveyard+Eternity, and FFQ+Druid. Stone Skin and Purify are just too situational for you to truly take advantage of in the majority of your games. These excess cards are better replaced with more early-game defences and card drawing engines so that you can actually make it to the late game and win.

For a more streamlined approach, you'll want a ~35-40 card deck with 6 Supernova and an Entropy mark. You'll need at least 2 Hourglasses for a 35 card deck, and 3 for 36-40 card decks. Again, cutting out unnecessary cards is vital to achieving efficiency.

[ztormtrooper]

i cant believe you didnt notice this but you have to many cards. keep it at 40,maybe 45 but i dont see the need for phase dragon it might be immaterial but it takes about 11 aethar. purify isnt really needed and chimera as well. Maxwell is meh and so need for forest spirit stone skin may be useful but a miracle is even more useful. Mummy is ok i guess but not needed. The dim shields are good and permafrost as well. Snovas well snovas might be needed but its your call. Steam machine is ok in the deck it can be super powerful but sancuarary is only usefull against black hole devourers and discord, you have sogs for healing but thats what i thinkz

[chrisbenton876]

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OK I think I understand. I need to cut my deck down and change my strategy a little. Thanks for the Help. I have modified my deck. It is actually only 58 cards. The ? ? ? is not a card.  It is still large for now but I will work on cutting it down after I can get some of the cards upgraded. Thanks for your help. Hope this one works better. I am going to give it a try. Anymore feedback on the new deck is welcome. I am still new and learning by trial and error. Its still fun though. Thanks again for all the help.

[pervepic]

If you like big Fg decks then you ould try something like this:

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And there are many others (look also a fat deck topic in this section), but this one was tested by me.

[chrisbenton876]

Thanks. That looks like a pretty good deck. I will have to work toward that one. Its gonna take a while to get the cards and upgrade them but it gives me a reason to keep playing. Thanks.

[ztormtrooper]

If you like big Fg decks then you ould try something like this:

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And there are many others (look also a fat deck topic in this section), but this one was tested by me.

maybe 6 hourglasses is too much(imo)how about 5?

[BloodlinE]

If you like big Fg decks then you ould try something like this:

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And there are many others (look also a fat deck topic in this section), but this one was tested by me.

maybe 6 hourglasses is too much(imo)how about 5?

ill -1 elite queen -1 hourglass and +2 antimatter

[pervepic]

Nah, don't mess with Hourglasses; it's 60 card deck after all  . Just too oftten no HG in the starting hand equals loss. But you can play AM instead of Queen; but I like Queen because it's fun to make mutations. It's a kinda matter of taste here.

[TheForbiddenOracle]

Might wanna squeeze in another Eternity, in case it's your last card and whatnot. Also Graveyard could be unupgraded as it's main purpose is mutations, not damage

[Newbiecake]

Speaking of phat decks, let's get this guy jumping on the band wagon: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,22028.0.html

60-67% win rate. You can't refuse that.

On your deck:

Yes, what people are putting up are the more ideal versions of phat rainbows.

[pervepic]

Yep, Graveyard can be unupgraded as well, but I prefer little more damage (I guess that AI also attacks 2HP skeletons and doesn't attack 1 HP skeletons? If so, then AI wastes his creture control there). Eternity as a last card is not so big problem in 60-card deck, but it may help against Akebono and Graviton for example. Btw, 10 men also had a nice Eternity-based FG deck in FG deck section.

Edit: sry this one is the 10 men's deck Noobiacakes already referred (with some modifications); they made that together and now this one has a Ghost there