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Accelered Voodoo Dolls https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29009.msg370319#msg370319
« on: July 23, 2011, 04:44:32 pm »
what do you think?? and what can i improve??
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Re: Accelered Voodoo Dolls https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29009.msg370321#msg370321
« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2011, 04:48:12 pm »
Looks fun, but also looks like it needs more quanta. 
Dropping a voodoo and accel for two more pendulums shouldn't hurt.
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Re: Accelered Voodoo Dolls https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29009.msg370322#msg370322
« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2011, 04:51:18 pm »
Looks fun, but also looks like it needs more quanta. 
Dropping a voodoo and accel for two more pendulums shouldn't hurt.
i was thinking i needed less pendulums...

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Re: Accelered Voodoo Dolls https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29009.msg370327#msg370327
« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2011, 05:03:32 pm »
Actually I think the pendulum is just fine. You could make some changes, though.


I'd SUGGEST (Suggest..)

- Drop 1 vamp stiletto (Yup)
- Drop 3 Drain Life
- Add two pendulum and two Liquid Shadow. (Liquid Shadow serves as a Lobotomizer if you use it on another creature, for example, a lava golem, and it also works to say, once you get your Voodoo on high attack, to use it on the voodoo to stop Accel and get some healing, might give you EM's if you have some luck.)

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Re: Accelered Voodoo Dolls https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29009.msg370329#msg370329
« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2011, 05:10:38 pm »
Actually I think the pendulum is just fine. You could make some changes, though.


I'd SUGGEST (Suggest..)

- Drop 1 vamp stiletto (Yup)
- Drop 3 Drain Life
- Add two pendulum and two Liquid Shadow. (Liquid Shadow serves as a Lobotomizer if you use it on another creature, for example, a lava golem, and it also works to say, once you get your Voodoo on high attack, to use it on the voodoo to stop Accel and get some healing, might give you EM's if you have some luck.)
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Re: Accelered Voodoo Dolls https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29009.msg370337#msg370337
« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2011, 05:39:35 pm »
Uhh.. Thanks.

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Re: Accelered Voodoo Dolls https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29009.msg372023#msg372023
« Reply #6 on: July 27, 2011, 01:16:38 am »
Dm was somewhat correct when he said to drop the vampire stiletto. It is a great card, and can still fit in this deck.
But he was correct in dropping the Drain lives to add more Liquid Shadow. Liquid shadow on an unbuffed voodoo doll will deal 2 damage a turn, one through the loss of life from a poisoned voodoo, and one from the poison from the voodoo's passive ability. The drain lives will not have enough quanta to do well in this this deck.

However, another modification you can do to this deck is to drop the black holes. The black holes would be mainly anti-rainbow decks, however most rainbow decks will be able to outspeed this deck. This is why I would drop the three black holes and a liquid shadow and add 2 gravity pulls, along with 2 nightfall. The added nightfall allows the voodoo dolls that were not accelerated to deal damage too. It also gives the voodoo dolls an extra turn of life, as long as it is not destroyed. The gravity pulls have a twofold purpose, if you're being outrushed you can use it on an unaccelled voodoo doll and deal damage. Later in the game, you can use the gravity pull on an annoying enemy creature such as Arctic Squid.

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Re: Accelered Voodoo Dolls https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29009.msg374585#msg374585
« Reply #7 on: August 02, 2011, 01:50:04 am »
I have given some thoughts on a similar deck HERE (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,27619.msg400558#msg400558), and Onizuka and others have also already offered their wisdom on the subject of your deck. Instead of going over those same thoughts yet another time then, let me try to offer a different approach, that still keeps the theme of gravity/darkness with AccelerVoodoos:

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In my experience, unupped accel + Voodoo dolls is strong but very slow. It is resistant to CC, and because of it's growth style attack, it can overwhelm stalls. It can't out speed rushes though. One approach would be for you to add in additional creatures to try and increase the speed. This could work, but to me it seems like swimming upstream, to try and make a combo that is naturally slow into something fast. So the we head in the other direction and try to increase the stalling power of the deck and give the dolls enough time to become murderously massive. There are many ways to do this, and the approach I tested was to add Drain Life and Gravity shields. The Drain Lifes work to destroy weaker creatures, while the gravity shields block the high hp threats.

 

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