Tips/Criticism for my Rainbow Scarab based deck (Arena Grinder?)

[furballdn]

Are the plate armors really necessary? Sure they increase devouring range, but those 4 cards could also easily be removed from your deck decreasing its huge size.

[ninetyfools]

Are the plate armors really necessary? Sure they increase devouring range, but those 4 cards could also easily be removed from your deck decreasing its huge size.

Agreed bro.

[Elbirn]

I think they're *absolutely* necessary. This deck is about eating everything, as *soon* as possible, minimizing damage done. (Best defense is a good offense?) and it's a lot harder to do that without the plate armors. Unless I can get 4 or 5 scarabs out in the first few turns, I'm not going to be able to start eradicating everything the opponent puts on the field.

Say I take the plate armors out. The I'm just stalling waiting for the right cards and the right amount of quanta to show up...I'm waiting...I'm waiting....and then I'm dead without having played a single card. That would bother me to no end. ;(

[furballdn]

I think they're *absolutely* necessary. This deck is about eating everything, as *soon* as possible, minimizing damage done. (Best defense is a good offense?) and it's a lot harder to do that without the plate armors. Unless I can get 4 or 5 scarabs out in the first few turns, I'm not going to be able to start eradicating everything the opponent puts on the field.

Say I take the plate armors out. The I'm just stalling waiting for the right cards and the right amount of quanta to show up...I'm waiting...I'm waiting....and then I'm dead without having played a single card. That would bother me to no end. ;(

If you want something like that, you could make a deck of just scarabs and plate armors. Trying to fit in all these rainbow cards and quantum pillars into a scarab deck is sort of trying to accomplish too much with one deck, and it just ends up being large and clumsy. Your deck should focus on one or two main ideas. Right now it's scarabs eating things. That means deflag, EA, blessing, purple nymph, and steal aren't that crucial to your main focus. Sure they help, for side issues, but I feel your deck would just be better if you removed all the other cards and made it just a scarab deck. A rainbow scarab deck is hard to build.

[I8SumOrangesNItWasK]

For my deck, it's necessary to have at least 3 SoR's and all the RT's have to be upgraded for the reduced quanta cost (otherwise, a single Nova isn't enough to fund them). Once you get that...go ahead and try it. I like it.

Note on Bone Walls though...while they're nice and all, there are 2 major weaknesses you have. 1 is quite simple: Momentum. The other is if your opponent gets a bunch of low-cost creatures out before your Scarabs can eat them all. Bone Wall isn't full-proof, but it's pretty darn uber.

[Elbirn]

So the conclusion of this thread would appear to be.. Make a whole new deck, basically?

Radical.
I like it.

The main problem is my obsession with trying to force healing into every deck to get EM's, while most of you vets realize that a speedy deck results in more score/electrum gain over time anyway. Then I get distracted with the idea  of adding perma control for even more winning, finding alternate ways to buff scarabs and spam them.. So on and so forth.

So I think I'm going to work on a death/time deck that uses scarabs/mummys+Reverse time/bonewall, since there's obvious synergy there. Farm with that until I get enough rares to copy tiamat :3 and go from there.

EDIT: Crap, I'd still need gravity quanta and earth quanta for plate armors...gahh.

[Brontos]

If I sum up correctly, you just want to:
- play scarabs because you like them
- have EM because it's electrum-friendly

My suggestions then:
- come back to the origin deck, no novas, more towers, 6x sundials.
- add maybe 4/5 aether pendulums (remove some towers), it will help with time to add hourglasses to the deck.
- add 3 hourglass, you really need to have them upgraded
- just play 1 pharaoh maximum (even 0), you have no reason to play him in fact (no quints, no shards of readiness, etc).
- just play 3/4 scarabs
- focus on the fractal/scarab combo (it will also increase the importance of the bonds) - I think 4/5 fractal is ok
- play less buffs, your scarabs should be big enough with just their brothers on the field (should give you rooms). Just 1 or 2 upped plate armor should be enough.
- don't play the druidic staff, the bonds should be enough to heal you for the EM (if you really want a weapon, play a pulveriser for PC or an upped vampiric for healing power).

If you ever choose to follow my path, tell me how it goes.

[I8SumOrangesNItWasK]

I just typed a whole bunch of crap, but got disconnected and lost it all. -_-

I'm going to post less because I don't feel like typing that all again. Basically though, key points in it were:

-Don't get rid of Fractal if you use your deck.
-If you use mine, don't use Plate Armor.
-Speed is more important than EM.
-PC isn't necessary in Scarab decks.
-Scarabs are good at speed AND stalling (with Bone Wall).

And, here is a Mummy/RT duo deck with no upgraded or rares. Use if you want, I don't care. Eternity wouldn't hurt in this deck either and Chimera is a good idea too.

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You are fueling five reverse-times and 5 pharaoh's skills with six time factories. You don't have the time to let you're quanta build up.

[Elbirn]

@Brontos: I'm going to go make some modifications to my deck as per your suggestions, and see how that works for me, thanks much.

@Tiamat: Agreed with DJ, more time quanta would definitely be needed..Unless you add the SoR's that you wuv so much and which I can never find ;(

[I8SumOrangesNItWasK]

Eh, your major flaw in your very incorrect assumption is that you never get anywhere near 5 Pharoahs out. 2 is average, and 3 is even pushing it. There's enough for all 3 Pharoahs to produce a Scarab every turn IF you even get 3 out, but you very rarely will ever need to...

[Djhopper :)]

Eh, your major flaw in your very incorrect assumption is that you never get anywhere near 5 Pharoahs out. 2 is average, and 3 is even pushing it. There's enough for all 3 Pharoahs to produce a Scarab every turn IF you even get 3 out, but you very rarely will ever need to...

You're assuming you get half the possible pharaohs but all the possible pillars. Use the powers of logic.