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Currently working on "Dollhouse" Deck: 1 Purple Nymph for FG farming. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12204.msg152343#msg152343
« on: September 05, 2010, 02:38:26 am »
This is a concept deck, so I'm not recommending anyone actually invest the electrum in the deck unless you want to.  The initial idea came to me at about 2:30 in the morning and I quickly used a lot of my electrum to start building it.  A few bad purchasing decisions were made in the initial excitement to build the deck.

The w/l % is not totally great but the deck is somewhat experimental anyway.  Not sure exactly what the w/l is, my guess is 25-30% at this point.  Since I keep making small changes to the deck it is kind of hard to say exactly.   

The deck is not built for speed (not a rush deck.)  It is a deck which gets better as time goes on.  It requires very careful management of your time quanta and shields as well as consideration of the limited number of permanent slots you have.

If you are interested, you might want to give it a go in the trainer against FG's.  I did build the deck and continue to work on it. 

This deck is built around one card.  Why?  Because you are not supposed to build an elements deck around one card.  I'm interested in seeing how well the deck can do.  Of course, you might want to add a second creature (maybe an elite anubis), but for me, that would ruin the idea of the Dollhouse deck.  The only creature card in the deck is supposed to be the Purple Nymph.

In any case, the deck does well against some FG's.  The deck has gone through many variations so far as I continue to modify it. 

Here is the "stock" version:

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Here is a screenshot of the deck versus Ferox, for example.  http://imageplay.net/img/m7Gbd84863/fgferox.jpg  

Here is a newer variation.

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Anyway, I'm sure there are a lot of ways to add cards which would help the deck.  Maybe momentum... 

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Re: Currently working on "Dollhouse" Deck: 1 Purple Nymph for FG farming. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12204.msg152397#msg152397
« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2010, 03:18:20 am »
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Re: Currently working on "Dollhouse" Deck: 1 Purple Nymph for FG farming. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12204.msg152486#msg152486
« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2010, 06:08:07 am »
I guess I see this as more of a challenge to try to improve the winning % while using only the purple nymph.

So far, the biggest problem is the total vulnerability to FG's with strong permanent control aspects.  I'm about to test out a new version with more permanent protection.  At the very least, it's probably a good idea to protect 1 mindgate (otherwise no way to steal creatures) and the eternity.  But having a protected lobo could be very helpful.  Early on, the shards make a difference.

The problem is the more cards I add, the harder it is to get to the nymph.

Anyway, I beat Incarnate with this variation, but obviously a deck like Eternal phoenix owned this version so it is back to the drawing board.

http://imageplay.net/img/m7Gbd84937/incarnate.jpg

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Again, my guess is the deck could easily incorporate other cards, like Elite Anubis & Mindflayer and do very well against FG, but I'm trying to build with just PN. 

Another thing this demonstrates is how a single purple nymph can probably change everything.  It's odd that such a card is so hard to obtain....

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Re: Currently working on "Dollhouse" Deck: 1 Purple Nymph for FG farming. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12204.msg153423#msg153423
« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2010, 07:17:57 pm »
Hi!  I'm pretty new to looking at decks, but I've lurked around the forum a lot and been on the game for a while.  Before I comment more, could you let us know what exactly the "??" cards are?  Also, what has been your experience with actually getting to the nymph before being overly damaged?  I have two upgraded, but when I stick one or both into my copy of CCYB in place of antimatters, I either have trouble drawing to them, or have trouble having enough quanta for them, so I'm curious about your experience, since you have entropy towers.

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Re: Currently working on "Dollhouse" Deck: 1 Purple Nymph for FG farming. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12204.msg153528#msg153528
« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2010, 10:34:39 pm »
I'm not sure why the cards are hidden.  The easiest way to get the deck codes is to go to the elements trainer if you need to see them and copy and paste the code.

http://www.elementsthegame.com/trainer.html

The hidden cards are usually the new cards like mindgate and pendelums.

My experience in getting the nymph out is quite good, but the key for me, since I only have 1 pn is to keep the deck size fairly small to increase the odds.  The real challenge is to get the shard of readiness + quint on the nymph but it happens more often than you think.  (In one variation, I even tried to add momentum as well to overcome fireshields and caraprice).

The shields/shards provide a significant amount of stall time.  So usually I try to play as long as I can without using shields if shards allow for it. 

Again, the win % is not great with this deck against FG but as I made clear it's a concept deck.  Because of mindgate, there is much less need to pack your deck with creatures imho.

I keep trying to find different ways to try to decrease deck size but with FG its hard because they want to engage in creature and permanent control.  If you lose the mindgates, the deck is dead- but if you add protection for your artifacts, the deck size increases too much to draw the nymph so its a very narrow window of trying to balance needs.

I think there is already a deck with 2 purple nymphs on the wiki that was posted before the new cards.

(One thing holding me back from upping the nymphs is the weekly tournament.  It usually allows for unupped cards only, so if I want to ever use my nymphs in those, I can't up them.  OTOH, I prefer the unupped to upped tourney format.  Otherwise, I'd up my nymph.)

I mean you could try to build an entropy centric deck with quanta towers and a few creatures.  I would say 2 mindflayers, 1 anubis, 1 maxwells demon, and 1 p/n. 

Unupped mindflayers would allow for butterfly effects, anubis would immortalize, mindflayers would lobotomize, and pn would antimatter, but in practice the bulk of the deck might then work against it.  Besides, as I explained I'm working on a concept.

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Re: Currently working on "Dollhouse" Deck: 1 Purple Nymph for FG farming. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12204.msg156347#msg156347
« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2010, 12:12:39 pm »
i tried this deck and it is definitely the most fun i've had, ever!!!!!!!!!

excellent concept and ur right u get the pn, SoR and quint combo very often.

at first the idea of centering a deck around 1 card was wierd but it definitely works

not sure how luck based this is but i won 5 out of 6 games against FG, one of those was destiny and another was dreamcatcher

cutos on a brilliant idea!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D

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Re: Currently working on "Dollhouse" Deck: 1 Purple Nymph for FG farming. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12204.msg156731#msg156731
« Reply #6 on: September 11, 2010, 10:09:53 pm »
The deck can win against FG, but I wouldn't say its an FG killer yet.  It does better against some FG's than others.  I still lose a lot of rounds with it, esp. when the mingates/shards get destroyed.  Over time, you'll find that the deck does not have a great win/loss % in my experience (I think I put it at 25-30%), but if you draw the right FG it certainly has a pretty good chance. 

As I stated, try the deck out in the trainer.  It's a lot of electrum to spend and there are plenty of alternatives.  For me, it's an interesting idea and I consider at "concept" deck.

It's more for people who want to play around with a deck idea.  I recommend building it in the trainer rather than spending the electrum.

 

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