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Time/Aether https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18115.msg230791#msg230791
« on: December 22, 2010, 07:19:12 am »
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A pretty straight forward deck, quick deja vu rush with aether stalling.

obvious weakness is simple shields (skull, titanium, dimensional, fire, ice, solar)

Used only in trainer against ai3 and thinking about pvp 1 and 2, thoughts, opinions and ideas?

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Re: Time/Aether https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18115.msg230794#msg230794
« Reply #1 on: December 22, 2010, 07:26:18 am »
Hmm...this deck could really run some people over if everything goes as planned.  If things don't go as planned, however...Shields are big problem for you.  Diamond Shield, Titanium Shield, Jade Shield, Permafrost Shield, and Hope to an extent will make it impossible for you to win except through deck out (which with Precognition this might not be possible either).  Rain of Fire, Plague, Retrovirus, Fire Buckler, and Thorn/Spine Carapace will also ruin you fairly quickly.  Of course, this is just assuming you don't manage to kill your opponent before those cards are played :)  After pointing out those weaknesses...there's not much you can do to stop them using :time and :aether.  Basically you would need to pray for good draws on your end and that your opponent's deck doesn't have the appropriate counter.  In saying that, I can't find anything to "fix" here; the deck looks solid as is.
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Re: Time/Aether https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18115.msg230798#msg230798
« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2010, 07:39:22 am »
Just tried it. It is surprisingly effective. It isn't incredibly fast, but it does put tremendous pressure on your opponent. Unless your opponent has a shield, expect to win.

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Re: Time/Aether https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18115.msg230799#msg230799
« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2010, 07:41:04 am »
i originally had sundials to stall creatures, but still have problems with pc, thought about using  :fire mark and explosions in place of precog, and for cc, quint. that runs into the problem of fractal though. explosion sound good with  :fire mark?

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Re: Time/Aether https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18115.msg230800#msg230800
« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2010, 07:42:02 am »
Just tried it. It is surprisingly effective. It isn't incredibly fast, but it does put tremendous pressure on your opponent. Unless your opponent has a shield, expect to win.
o yeah i ran through the trainer on ai3 around 100 times, with roughly an 80-85% win average. the silence really messes things up at the beginning if i can use right away.

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Re: Time/Aether https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18115.msg231065#msg231065
« Reply #5 on: December 22, 2010, 09:35:26 pm »
When I first saw the deck i thought it was a joke, but after tried it, it can win games in a unexpected way, It is a very nice use of Silence.

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Re: Time/Aether https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18115.msg231131#msg231131
« Reply #6 on: December 22, 2010, 11:36:29 pm »
Silence stops any hard CC against the Deja's. Good job ^^. Maybe a PU for some heavy hitter in some cases?

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Re: Time/Aether https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18115.msg231206#msg231206
« Reply #7 on: December 23, 2010, 02:49:28 am »
Silence stops any hard CC against the Deja's. Good job ^^. Maybe a PU for some heavy hitter in some cases?
thought about PU, but usually fractal is enough, although if i were to buff the deja vu's PU would be the obvious choice, may try n see what i can get with that.

 

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