Time, Light, Water. semi unupped gold grinder that might need work.

[Mr Muffin]

This is a deck idea I came up with after Arum inspired me with the idea of deja vus plus luciferin plus blessed golden dragons. His deck didn't work but I took out the dragons blessings and added hope and SoP with some other stuff and came up with this little beauty. I use it in gold with much success, especially for a semi unupped deck. Anyway I was really pleased with it so I'm posting it here.

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I found a deck similar to it but mine is quite different and I think improved. here's the old deck

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I would like this deck to be even better if it can so I'm posting it here before posting it in the trio quartet section. I would like some help with card choices like if I should change the miracle for another sanctuary or change the nymph for something else (I put it in because I happen to have it and thought it would be nice to have but if you don't have one you can change it.) and other simple modifications that I should know about.         

[Ginyu]

If you have, Rays of Light will be helpful here. They start raising your quanta early to help getting Hope out much earlier. In exchange, you can remove Miracle, the Sancs and 2 Luci. I know, light quanta will stack, but having a good defense earlier is more important, and your Nymph is an expensive point. Sanc healing isn't as useful as getting your shield up early, Miracle won't help in most cases when you got the quanta (unless you go for EM), and 6 Lucis aren't neccessary anymore. I prefer your version in terms of using Time Towers and Water Mark instead of Novas, this way you'll have more consistent draws.

Overall, good job on the deck if you built it yourself.

[ratcharmer]

Nice deck

I'm pretty sure the miracle is in there so the deck gets a lot of EMs--thus making it important to the grinding efficiency.

I think I agree on the sanctuaries though--I'm not sure they're adding very much. Have you tried sundials instead?

The only other thing I'm seeing is that you have 4 copies of an unbreakable shield in a 30-card deck. I'm not sure you need that many.

[Mr Muffin]

If you have, Rays of Light will be helpful here. They start raising your quanta early to help getting Hope out much earlier. In exchange, you can remove Miracle, the Sancs and 2 Luci. I know, light quanta will stack, but having a good defense earlier is more important, and your Nymph is an expensive point. Sanc healing isn't as useful as getting your shield up early, Miracle won't help in most cases when you got the quanta (unless you go for EM), and 6 Lucis aren't neccessary anymore. I prefer your version in terms of using Time Towers and Water Mark instead of Novas, this way you'll have more consistent draws.

First of all thanks for the feed back. Will replace the sancs, nymph, luciferins and miracle when I have the upped photons. Also I did indeed build it myself. 

I'm pretty sure the miracle is in there so the deck gets a lot of EMs--thus making it important to the grinding efficiency.

I think I agree on the sanctuaries though--I'm not sure they're adding very much. Have you tried sundials instead?

The only other thing I'm seeing is that you have 4 copies of an unbreakable shield in a 30-card deck. I'm not sure you need that many.

Also thanks for your feedback. The miracles whole purpose is for more EMs so you and Ginyu could debate over whether to take it out or not.
Also you of you said to replace sancs with dials Ginyu said more RoLs so I would like to have some more feedback on this also.
Lastly I'm not sure about 4 hopes but I have heard and seen four is the best number and I want to get them out as fast and reliably as possible. I guess that's another thing I would appreciate more feedback on.   

I'll try to get some stats on this deck but as soon as I can.

Once again thanks for your opinions hope to be seeing more constructive comments like these.   

[ratcharmer]

Also thanks for your feedback. The miracles whole purpose is for more EMs so you and Ginyu could debate over whether to take it out or not.
Also you of you said to replace sancs with dials Ginyu said more RoLs so I would like to have some more feedback on this also.
Lastly I'm not sure about 4 hopes but I have heard and seen four is the best number and I want to get them out as fast and reliably as possible. I guess that's another thing I would appreciate more feedback on.   

The way I'm thinking of it is like this: you have the "core deck" consisting of your towers, deja vus, SoPas, 4 Luci's and 3 Hopes. The rest feel free to play around with--it costs you very little to swap a card for a few games and see how you like it.

There are actually a lot of potentially interesting options to put into this deck. Here's my breakdown on a few of them:

• Ray of Light I'm actually really hesitant to recommend this. Yes, it could help get Hope out faster, but adding free cards could mess up the auto-muligan, which could be devastating to a deck with only 6 towers. This would also require upgrading another card.
• Sanctuary This deck is already packed with healing, so I don't think the extra heal is adding much--the main utility to Sanctuary here is resistance to quanta tampering. Since you have a very limited supply of  and  this is actually a pretty big deal, but the problem comes in because this deck can't get Sanctuary out in time to be effective against quanta tampering. Once you have , your deck is already going off.
• Sundial I like sundial here because it has a nice stall that meshes well with the rest of the deck (SoPa says your creatures aren't attacking anyway) and it could speed up getting your combo out thanks to the card draw.
• Purify If you're running into a lot of decks that bypass Hope using poison Purify could fit pretty well into your deck. It's also a nice little cheap stall card that you could probably play early. Not my top pick since you have so much healing already though
• Freeze Cheap, reliable cc that could shut down problematic creatures (Early Oty, Mutant with scary abilities/stats, Nymphs etc.). Probably one of my top picks since I'm guessing you usually don't use all your
• Shard of Divinity If you're getting a lot of your grinding efficiency from EMs, then SoDiv offers the intriguing possibility of EMing with more than max health (for more reward). Beyond that it's a decent stall that doesn't clash with your other heals.
• Light Nymph I'm guessing this was included at least in part because the deck produces more than you know what to do with, but as Ginyu alluded to the nymph pretty much only comes into play once you're already winning.
• Time Pendulum As I mentioned earlier, this deck has a limited supply of both and . Since the demand for these is also low that generally works just fine, but it does mean that even a small amount of Quanta denial could shut the deck down pretty hard. This could be particularly useful if you swap in something else that uses  or
• Hope My reasoning for wanting to take out 1 copy of Hope goes as follows: this is not a useful draw if you get it before you get the Deja Vu/Luci combo out, and you only ever need to draw one copy--it can't be destroyed and never runs out, so after you draw the first copy of Hope the other 3 are just dead cards in your hand. I would think that usually the limiting factor for getting Hope into play would be waiting to get the from the combo, not waiting to draw the card.

Probably enough theorycrafting for now--give me a couple days to do some of my own tinkering and I'll let you know if I come up with anything particularly cool. Once again, my compliments on the deck.

[CrockettRocket]

change mark to light, change the time towers for novas. Change improved miracle and 1 luci to an archangel probably or blessings.

[Calindu]

change mark to light, change the time towers for novas. Change improved miracle and 1 luci to an archangel probably or blessings.

This makes no sense, not only you can't use deja vu's like they are intended to with only 6 mana, but the cards you recommended don't do anything in this deck.

[JonathanCrazyJ]

change mark to light, change the time towers for novas. Change improved miracle and 1 luci to an archangel probably or blessings.

What?

[CrockettRocket]

Eh, the time would be a little strained. Id have 2 time towers put back in, didn't test just off the top of my head stuff. As for the usefulness of archangel it would be to keep the deja vus alive, and blessing does the same. Plus deja vus take a bit to get going, while archangels would provide for great damage in the games you get bad RNG. Blessing however combos well with deja vu cause it doubles the attack gained from blessing, certainly far away from doing "nothing." Or you could do the changes I suggested (although archangel would cost too much) and have mark of time instead.

[Calindu]

Eh, the time would be a little strained. Id have 2 time towers put back in, didn't test just off the top of my head stuff. As for the usefulness of archangel it would be to keep the deja vus alive, and blessing does the same. Plus deja vus take a bit to get going, while archangels would provide for great damage in the games you get bad RNG. Blessing however combos well with deja vu cause it doubles the attack gained from blessing, certainly far away from doing "nothing." Or you could do the changes I suggested (although archangel would cost too much) and have mark of time instead.

Nah, still doesn't make sense, the deck is based on SoPa, so archangels don't fit at all. Blessings might be good, but given that SoPa is already boosting everything, the usefulness of blessings is highly reduced. As for the quanta sources you are suggesting, it still sounds really bad and will likely just lead to very slow starts.

[Mr Muffin]

Reading over these comments I think I like the idea of sundials or RoLs best. I might do some testing to see which one of those I will use. Might also take out the fourth hope but will also have to do some testing on that.

[Mr Muffin]

Double post but this is important.

games played: 20
games won: 7
win percentage: 28.57%
EM rate: 14.29%

Looking at these stats it needs more upgrades and some fine tuning. Hopefully I can get the the win rate to at least 50%
Removing the miracle significantly dropped the EM rate so will do more testing when I can. I modified the deck some as I tested it but this is what I had at the end.

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I added a reflective shield because I was played against a lot of SoW decks but will probably take it out on account of the wave of them subsiding.I didn't like using the sundials that much.