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What unupgraded deck is better against mono aether? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7458.msg81759#msg81759
« on: June 04, 2010, 12:49:52 pm »
Hi! Can you help me, what unupgraded deck is the best against mono aether (packed with x6 Dimmensiol shields, x5 Immortal and x4 Dragons)

Here is my deck:
(http://imageplay.net/view/m7Gbd66799/deck)


All cards are low-cost as you see. This deck is rather fast, but sometimes fire-decks are even faster, so I use different cheap control cards like freeze or seed.

This deck can beat almost any other deck, except mono-aether with six shields. I just don't know what to do with mono-aether, my two steals don't help. Any suggestions what to do?
Thanks!

finkel

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Re: What unupgraded deck is better against mono aether? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7458.msg81779#msg81779
« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2010, 01:18:40 pm »
I can't see your deck, so I'm afraid I can't help you specifically. Try fixing your post so it shows up.
I'll try to help you based on the assumption that you're using a darkness deck, but I really don't know for certain.

General tip if you're using steals: Run 4-5 steals in your deck. Make sure your deck can constantly put more damage on the board. If you can continuously increase your damage output (the vast majority of decks do this, with FFQ, lava golems, playing more creatures, etc. etc.) The beauty of stealing a dimensional shield is that stealing it during your turn means that you have a full turn of attacking before he can put another up, and even then he can't attack you for two more turns! As long as you keep putting more damage out so that you can make every turn of damage count, then you'll be able to beat him.

The ideal combination against mono-aether that's not using lightnings is a vampire-fractal rush with dusk mantles and steals. Steal his shields, and when they run out and you can't steal another, play a dusk mantle. Your vampires will vastly out-heal his damage, and he won't stand a chance against your dusk mantles, nor the dimensional shields you steal.

Good luck ;)

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Re: What unupgraded deck is better against mono aether? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7458.msg81790#msg81790
« Reply #2 on: June 04, 2010, 01:33:13 pm »
I had to wait a few seconds to see that picture: Better use the Deck Generator ( the brown symbol with the cards, when you edit your posts ) to create a deck image, and for cards you don´t have, use the trainer (http://www.elementsthegame.com/trainer)

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You could add a shield like the Ice Shield ( you have no good one in your deck) , which could freeze your opponent with immortals. And don´t steal the first shield, but the "last shields" in the endgame. And if you steal shields, steal full shields, if possible.
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Re: What unupgraded deck is better against mono aether? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7458.msg81791#msg81791
« Reply #3 on: June 04, 2010, 01:33:59 pm »
Thanks for suggestion) Vampires are actually useles for me, they are too expensive for this deck, but dusk mantle is very good idea!) When u put dusk mantle on u should pray for opponent doesn't have steal))
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I know commands, better than you I bet. It's not my fault, that image-hosting site was shutted down.

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Re: What unupgraded deck is better against mono aether? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7458.msg81798#msg81798
« Reply #4 on: June 04, 2010, 01:52:53 pm »
Your deck as it is will probably get regularly pummelled by mono-aether for a few basic reasons:
1. You have no healing OR shields!
2. You have only two cards to deal with his dimensional shields, and will in all likelihood only draw one.

If you want to regularly beat mono-aether, you can do one of a number of a few things:
1. Heal+spine carapace/fire shield. Need plenty of healing since those shields don't prevent much, if any, damage.
2. Take care of his shields. A pulverizer, steals, explosions, butterfly effect would all work here.
3. Take care of his creatures. A gravity shield will drop his maximum damage output to 20, so you can try charger+flying titans (if you have any)+gravity shield+black holes.

Unfortunately, I can only think of a couple ways to modify your deck to make it work against mono-aether:
1. Drop all of your aether-usage and replace it with butterfly effects. Drop the steals, and replace them with cheap darkness creatures with less than 3 attack. You can already use butterfly effect on your fire-eaters and spirits, so with 2-3 devourers you'll be all set. Once you draw a butterfly effect (I'd recommend using 3-4 to garuntee drawing one), use it on a creature already in play and immediately use destroy to kill the shield. You should be able to quickly outdamage him, but just in case I'd recommend you play some healing (black holes, heals, etc.) and/or stalling cards, such as sundials (no point with butterfly effects, but otherwise you can stop him from attacking while you can't).
Other ideas: Armagios can soak up some damage while your butterfly effects take care of his shields and your creatures grow. Dusk Mantle and fog shield are both great cards against mono-aether, since the damage output is pretty slow to grow and there aren't a ton of creatures. Pillar destruction absolutely destroys mono-aether. 5 earthquakes with a mark of earth will completely shut him down. Devourers are also useful, but only if you have enough of them.

Good luck, hope this helps, let me know if you have any questions

good work, thanks for posting :)

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Re: What unupgraded deck is better against mono aether? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7458.msg81801#msg81801
« Reply #5 on: June 04, 2010, 01:57:27 pm »
Speed poison works like a charm.

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Re: What unupgraded deck is better against mono aether? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7458.msg81809#msg81809
« Reply #6 on: June 04, 2010, 02:09:20 pm »
Aether duo with darkness/fire to steal/explode dimensional shields. Trust me I purposely played this in random PvP when I was a noob to counter mono aethers. Slow but sure.

 

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