Swiss Army Rainbow looking for suggestions

[Tigerente]

You might want to put in 6 Hourglasses

[Spamalot]

60 cards isn't that bad if you have plenty of extra card-drawing ability.

Just make sure you have enough towers, and use 6 supernovas, otherwise you're pretty likely to run into early-match quanta problems, forcing you to discard.

If anything, I like having 60 cards for the fact that you can burn a steal/explosion/firestorm/etc. on something stupid early in the match, just to slow your opponent down a little, and you still have plenty of steal/explosion/firestorm/etc. left for the endgame.

But yeah, sometimes you get really, really bad draws.

[Hyper-Man]

I'm looking for ways of improving this deck that don't involve shrinking it.

I personally never even bother it the person asking for improvement ideas has rules on what kind of improvement ideas I can and cannot say.

....

So why did you "even bother" responding to this thread?

There is a difference between constructive criticism and ridicule.
And I thought the point of this game was to have fun.
Not to boast about "Look how great my decks are and how crappy the rest of yours are!"

I still have fun playing the game (except when the desynch error strikes) but I see there is little point in participating in the forums if immature attitudes like yours are prevalent.

Happy Gaming

[Scaredgirl]

So why did you "even bother" responding to this thread?

You asked a question that was directed to me personally.

There is a difference between constructive criticism and ridicule.

I am sorry that you fail to see the feedback I gave you. Do you think that maybe you cannot take criticism very well?

And I thought the point of this game was to have fun.

This is not the game. These are official forums. And what I've seen, these forums are less about the game and more about feelings and drama.

Not to boast about "Look how great my decks are and how crappy the rest of yours are!"

If you are referring to my "ultimate" rainbow deck, I never said it's great. It's pretty good for newbies but it's definitely not the best anti-False God deck out there because it's too big and it has some useless cards. Reasons for this are that I started the design process with a non-upgraded deck and before the Sundial fix. Also I took too many different creatures just because I wanted to have more variation in gameplay. If I made a rainbow deck today and was looking for the best possible winning percentage, it would look different.

I see there is little point in participating in the forums if immature attitudes like yours are prevalent.

This truly is a sad day for our community. I can only hope that with time we can bounce back from you committing e-suicide on this forum. But I know one thing.. things will never be the same.

Happy Gaming

Thanks, you too!

[cipher_nemo]

Why all the petty comments? You asked for suggestions and Scaredgirl gave you some. I agree with downsizing your deck a bit.

And here's my suggestions. Granted, I'm not some die-hard, long-time Elements player, but I'm at end game, grinding away on my regular account to upgrade cards to make fun decks. I know a little about what works and what doesn't work, what's fat to trim in a deck, and what's crucial. What I haven't been able to finely hone is the number of specific, key cards in certain decks to get draw percentages where we'd all like them.

But here's some cards I'd consider dropping from your deck...

• Animate Weapon. I really don't see the point in this since you can easily create creatures without the need for these cards. And when you turn them into creatures, they're more vulnerable. If you need a different weapon, just switch the new one in and don't worry about the old one. You already have protect artifacts, so your permanents are safer than your creatures with the difficult to bring out Annubis.
• Damselfly. Nothing special there... extra weight. You should be getting your quanta from novas, super novas, and quantum towers.
• Brimstone Eater. Same as Damselfly, nothing special there.
• Leaf Dragon. Same deal, dead weight.
• Arctic Octopus. Congeal/Freeze isn't my idea of worthwhile. It's better to kill, mutate, or remove than freeze (in that order).
• Maxwell's Demon. Paradox is decent, but I wouldn't dedicate a card to it, especially when it costs two quanta to use its ability. It's cheaper to get it from a mutate creature.
• Also, one of each weapon might be better. You don't want to get stuck with 4 or 5 weapons in your hand and no need for them.

Also, the regular Nova is good. It helps ramp up fast. I my smaller deck to farm the gods and fight Rainbow, I use only two Novas. But since your deck is so large, I'd use 4 Novas or add 2 Super Novas.

You also didn't mention your mark. Since you're using regular, non-upgraded Novas and Dials, I assume your mark is Time? If you're Entrophy, many Supernovas will help, along with upgraded Dials for no Time quanta cost.

[bobcamel]

Remove the quantum generating creatures, put in Novas/Supernovas.

[Uncle Jellyfish]

Major themes? You have those?

To me this deck looks like a typical rainbow with less vital cards (like Sundial and Supernova) and more random useless cards (like Gnome Gemfinder, Brimstone Eater, Ray of Light, etc.).

But there is no need to even look at the cards. The fact that you have 60 cards is itself proof that your deck sucks. Having so many cards makes your deck way too luck dependent.

This is your post, and to me and probably many others, it comes off as quite blunt, even rude. Though I agree with everything you said, you could've said the same exact thing like this:

This deck looks like the standard Rainbow deck, but with less of the more vital cards (like Sundial and Supernova) and instead has some of the more useless cards (like Gnome Gemfinder, Brimstone Eater, Ray of Light, etc.).

Though I think that your biggest problem is the fact that you have 60 cards in the deck. Having that many cards greatly increases your luck dependance and reduces your winning percentage. If you were to remove those more useless cards, and increase the amount of the vital cards, and reduce the size of the deck, it'd perform a lot better than it does now.

I said the same exact thing, but it has a different emotion to it. This isn't about drama, it's about taking the feelings of the individual into consideration when you reply.

Btw, don't bother replying. I have a feeling you're going to say something in the same manner that you use with everyone else, acuse me of spreading drama (which indeed I am with this post), and deconstructively critisize me for being a bad mod or something. Just because I take the feelings of others into consideration doesn't make me a bad moderator, it makes me a better person.

And I completely forgot about that MSN thing, lol.

[cipher_nemo]

This is your post, and to me and probably many others, it comes off as quite blunt, even rude.

Yeah, her comments could be taken a touch rude.

If you're nice in return, then it's all on her. Instead petty remarks all around. Just let it roll off ya for now. (Directed at the OP, HyperMan).

[cipher_nemo]

Back to the deck...

Uncle mentioned to remove the Ray of Light out of there. Even though it does add extra baggage to the deck, I can see a specific use for it:

Helping get those first Life quanta when you drop 1 or 2 towers and a Dial on the first turn and the second turn yields no Life quanta yet. The Ray of Light can be down first turn and give you want you need to draw 2nd turn. Also a good early target to draw some direct damage from your opponent to see what they have in-hand.

However, that's the only reason it might be useful. At end-game or even mid-game, it's just baggage.

But this is why I usually steal a Life pillar from Miracle or so early in the game.

[Scaredgirl]

Major themes? You have those?

To me this deck looks like a typical rainbow with less vital cards (like Sundial and Supernova) and more random useless cards (like Gnome Gemfinder, Brimstone Eater, Ray of Light, etc.).

But there is no need to even look at the cards. The fact that you have 60 cards is itself proof that your deck sucks. Having so many cards makes your deck way too luck dependent.

This is your post, and to me and probably many others, it comes off as quite blunt, even rude. Though I agree with everything you said, you could've said the same exact thing like this:

This deck looks like the standard Rainbow deck, but with less of the more vital cards (like Sundial and Supernova) and instead has some of the more useless cards (like Gnome Gemfinder, Brimstone Eater, Ray of Light, etc.).

Though I think that your biggest problem is the fact that you have 60 cards in the deck. Having that many cards greatly increases your luck dependance and reduces your winning percentage. If you were to remove those more useless cards, and increase the amount of the vital cards, and reduce the size of the deck, it'd perform a lot better than it does now.

I said the same exact thing, but it has a different emotion to it. This isn't about drama, it's about taking the feelings of the individual into consideration when you reply.

Btw, don't bother replying. I have a feeling you're going to say something in the same manner that you use with everyone else, acuse me of spreading drama (which indeed I am with this post), and deconstructively critisize me for being a bad mod or something. Just because I take the feelings of others into consideration doesn't make me a bad moderator, it makes me a better person.

First of all, you don't attack my character and then tell me not to reply.

I don't sugar-cote things like you. It's dishonest and not required. I am honest and speak my mind. If the OP has a problem with that, and he cannot take criticism, then maybe he shouldn't have started this thread in the first place.

ANYONE WHO POSTS HIS DECK IDEA ON A PUBLIC FORUM HAS TO BE READY TO TAKE ALL KINDS OF FEEDBACK.

If I said his deck sucks and told him why it sucks, why does that offend him? I didn't tell him he's ugly, I didn't tell him his mom is hairy or I didn't tell him his cat is retarded. I told him his online game deck sucks. If he takes that personally and it really offends him then I'm glad I did it because if he goes to the real world with that kind of attitude, he will get smashed like a bug.

Difference between me, you and OP is that I only talked about his deck. You two heroes on your high horse started talking about me and how insensitive I am yada yada (like you do on every thread)... Can't you really see the difference?

[cipher_nemo]

I think drawing out that drama any further can be done in PMs instead of in Hyper-Man's thread.

[cipher_nemo]

Mods are people too.