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Suggestions on Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7957.msg89543#msg89543
« on: June 12, 2010, 05:08:58 pm »
OK, I have 45k and 6 of every card (or more).
I'm wondering what fully upped deck I should buy?

I didn't put this as a poll because I wanted people to actually say why.
Choices

1. Life Rush for lvl3
2. RoL/Hope for FG
3. Miscellaneous Rainbow decks for FG
4. Terro's Pesty FG for FG
5. Wait for new FG killer to come out with new cards.
6. Shrieker rush for Lvl3/t50

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Re: Suggestions on Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7957.msg89546#msg89546
« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2010, 05:10:35 pm »
PuppyChow's FG deck http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,1748.0.html currently best percentage deck (I think).

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Re: Suggestions on Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7957.msg89579#msg89579
« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2010, 05:51:34 pm »
Thanks, i'll get to testing that one.

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Re: Suggestions on Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7957.msg90323#msg90323
« Reply #3 on: June 13, 2010, 02:44:32 pm »
If you already have a good FG killer...i'd say make a PVP2 deck because PVP is more fun...if not i say RoL/Hope since its the fastest electrum gain i think

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Re: Suggestions on Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7957.msg90325#msg90325
« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2010, 02:47:58 pm »
PuppyChow's FG deck http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,1748.0.html currently best percentage deck (I think).
support this too.

but some people say fractal RoL is better

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Re: Suggestions on Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7957.msg90355#msg90355
« Reply #5 on: June 13, 2010, 03:18:21 pm »
1. Life Rush for lvl3
2. RoL/Hope for FG
3. Miscellaneous Rainbow decks for FG
4. Terro's Pesty FG for FG
5. Wait for new FG killer to come out with new cards.
6. Shrieker rush for Lvl3/t50

I recommend building your own False God killer and playing with that.

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Re: Suggestions on Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7957.msg90382#msg90382
« Reply #6 on: June 13, 2010, 03:54:11 pm »
It depends what you want from the deck. If you want enjoyment out of playing, then you can go a variety of routes. you can go for a mutation-oriented deck (fallen druids+deja vus or malignant cells, or fate eggs+improved mutations) or just play pvp, though pvp takes a long time with the lag and desyncs. For FGs, I'd definitely recommend RoL-Fractal. It takes quite a bit of thought to figure out when to play your RoL (I've beaten decay exactly once since the update, since he siphon lifes your RoL now, which is ridiculously annoying, since then he can't fractal them) and how many dragons/RoL to play to get an EM (so your weapon kills your opponent after you heal up). The games never last more than 22 turns, whereas games with most traditional anti-FG rainbow decks take 10+ turns of rewinding a low-cost creature to finish the enemy off. If you're tired of losing to divine glory, obliterator, dark matter, and all those other pesky rainbow-killers, then defeinitely build RoL-Fractal. it blows them all out of the water (except when it doesn't). It doesn't hurt your brain as much as playing Rainbow decks does, which is why I'm using it. I just felt mentally exhausted after a few games, and those games each took ~5 minutes, the entirety of which I was thinking about what to do and whether or not to play a card quinted or not, etc.

If you want fun, play a fun deck. Mutation decks with quantum pillars or supernovas are very, very fun. I tried a fractal fate-egg deck against FGs with aether pillars, dim shields, and 6 SoG, and won 3 out of 10 games ^_^ It's pretty fun to see your field full of literally completely random creatures. If you want fast money, RoL-Fractal. If you want to win against FGs as often as possible, Puppy's deck is the one for you. If you don't want as much brain-hurtage and don't care about raising your score (Mine's gone up ~200 over 50 or so games, so it won't decrease, but it won't climb), RoL-Fractal.

It's all about what ya want, man ^_^

P.S.: For Top-50 farming, fractal-charger works really well. There's just no good way to deal with 10 chargers other than a double fire-storm, after which playing your remaining chargers seals the deal.

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Re: Suggestions on Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7957.msg90523#msg90523
« Reply #7 on: June 13, 2010, 06:42:29 pm »
I don't get why people use upgraded decks to farm lvl 3s since an unupgraded deck can beat em just fine

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Re: Suggestions on Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7957.msg90526#msg90526
« Reply #8 on: June 13, 2010, 06:48:22 pm »
I don't get why people use upgraded decks to farm lvl 3s since an unupgraded deck can beat em just fine
Speed / Consistency.

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Re: Suggestions on Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7957.msg90829#msg90829
« Reply #9 on: June 14, 2010, 12:40:27 am »
OK, I have 45k and 6 of every card (or more).
I'm wondering what fully upped deck I should buy?

I didn't put this as a poll because I wanted people to actually say why.
Choices

1. Life Rush for lvl3
2. RoL/Hope for FG
3. Miscellaneous Rainbow decks for FG
4. Terro's Pesty FG for FG
5. Wait for new FG killer to come out with new cards.
6. Shrieker rush for Lvl3/t50

Hello. I have tried all of this decks and here is my opinion.

1.Life Rush: It gets hi job done, but a speed rainbow is more effective and fun to play. Grinding level 3 is only for the beginning of the game or for take a rest time to time of others grindings. I only suggest to buy this deck when you'll have a lot of more decks and you want to try new things.

2.Rol/Hope for FG: This is the better option for grinding for electrum and upgraded cards. Some variations like Seravys gets a lot of victories per hour and others like UnionRuler variation are very consistent and have a nice winning mark. It is a clever decision to buy this deck, because, you will recover what you have invested very fast and then you can buy another deck. Althought is effective, I don't like that much ROL/Hope, because I like decks were you have to think and take decisions and games with Rol/Hope are always the same.

3.Miscellaneus Rainbows decks: I don't know what variations of rainbows decks have you tried, but having played a rainbow to grind FG is a must to understand the behaviour of the FG's.

 About Puppy Chow deck, the stats posted in the initial post are not serious at all. You can't say a 67% with a only a sample of 20 or 30 games played and more than half of these games against the most easy gods. If you do that with a good time-rainbow deck you'll have a 80-85%, but this is not true, because you have to play almost 100-200 games to have a sample that takes all gods, easies and hards ones.

  The original deck posted, is not that good, you can feel frustated, because on the long rung is 35-45 %, which is very acceptable and games are pretty fast, but if you only want results Rol-Hope is most fast and consistent.

  If you want to go with some Puppychow variation I suggest you Mrblonde 40 cards variation or Miniwally variation, both are much more consistent than original build. Mrblonde variation is very well tested, and from versions 1.17 from 1.21 had a winning mark of 65% over ALL the gods. In the actual version, with nerfs and new gods and the IA improved, it is a winning mark of 50% on the long run.


 The most consistent rainbows decks for 1.23, are Perpevic time-rainbow and Seravy time rainbow. Perpevic time rainbow is tested by his author for hundreds and hundreds and games and it is perfectly tweated, and it gives you chances against all gods (of course little ones for the hardest but are beatable) On the other side Seravy time rainbow is faster and does extremely well against easy gods, but hards one are difficult and you have to skip 3 gods. I have played for both decks more than 200 games with good winning % for both decks.



 For other decks, Amilir Titan deck is a good deck, and is a fast one, is also a deck to have in consideration.


Eternal Concordance deck also is very well and have winning mark of more of 50% but it s very slow and games can take too much.


Pharaohs decks have a winning % of 50-55, but are considerabily  more slow than a good time-rainbow.


Quohoelet decks are very original but they are slow ones. Is a good deck against hards gods but fails too much against easy gods.


Yaladilae butterfly deck is very similar to what I have said of PuppyChow deck.


4. Terror Pesty deck. This deck trust a lot in the starting hand and in the card drawing order. You can win two games in a fast easy way, and then lost next 6 games without having opposed resistance at all. It is like the nymphodeck of raininblod. You can win one game very easy and then lost a serie of games and then you think that the deck is a crap. But both decks are fast ones, and with a winning % of 30, on the long run they give you a good income of electrum.

5. Well I don't know what will be next false gods decks, I can't say nothing about it.

6.Shrieker Rush: A rush deck like 14 earth towers, 6 elite grabois, 4 elite shrikers, 3 earthquakes and 3 rewinds is a deck that is very consistent, simple, fast and effective. It does well in level 3, top50 and pvp2. Their enemy are Rol.Hope, but the IA plays so bad that you can win 65% of games against Rol-Hopes, before he can establish, because he lost times using his electrocutors against your unborrowed srhriekers and wasting aether quanta instead of playing a fast fractal and then hope. Also if he can play the hope fast enought, you don't have nothing to do.

 

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