Stone skin/FFQ Deck -- general help for ai2/ai3

[prophious]

by prophious

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so with this deck i can get up to 400+(highest seen since quanta was maxed at 75) mathematically can get 73(amount you get from an unupped stone skin) x6 = 438 + 100 starting = 538 + 6 max for upped stone skin..... ofc if 500 is not the max hp...

generally looking for unupped that can get to 75  very fast and be effective against ai3 or even arena... looking for card count to be as close to 30 as possible but a few over is fine

i do have alot of cards(all un-upped tho)... and can grind for others needed

[Aves]

The problem with using stone skin and a small deck is that you don't have a real victory condition.

Stoneskin is great for stall-based decks- decks that need time to set up and wait out the long match. In contrast, a 30 card deck is great for rushing as you get all those damage cards out as fast as you can. There is no synergy between stone skin and the classic air/life/light trio.

You have no defense against any type of control, and your damage is far too slow to be effective. Your healing and defensive capabilities only work if you get the time you need to set them up, but most rush decks will out-rush you before the combo is set and most stall decks will out-stall you.

In short, focus on one combo that will do the job- one main strategy for victory. Either:
1.Remove the stone skins entirely, and go for a simple FFQ-light-life combo.

2.Refit this deck into an earth/light stall duo, with stone skin, blessing, and iridium warden.

[furballdn]

Trios are generally unstable. Quads are even more unstable. I'd say to just remove the stone skins completely, and just focus on an FFQ deck. Stone skins aren't that useful for healing, and even if it makes you win more , it takes longer and isn't worth it. Just use a simple FFQ.

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[Chapuz]

Trios are generally unstable. Quads are even more unstable. I'd say to just remove the stone skins completely, and just focus on an FFQ deck. Stone skins aren't that useful for healing, and even if it makes you win more , it takes longer and isn't worth it. Just use a simple FFQ.

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Rustler + pilars may be too much  generation. I would suggest to personalize the one Bloodshadow made long time ago here (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,36180.0.html)

[Silver]

i think pendulum ffq is a lot better than rustler ffq except maybe if youre using adrenaline

-rustler is very vulnerable to cc
-pendulum lets you get bonds out quicker
-not as vulnerable to quanta control
-rustlers take up a lot of deck space

on the other hand
-pillars over pendulums might let you get ffqs out faster in some cases
-rustlers count towards bonds
-great late game if youre life heavy

[furballdn]

Rustler is fragile, but gets pumped out really quickly once you start building up . Pendulum may be more stable, but it drastically cuts the speed at which you get queens and bonds out. It's nice having one permanent that produces both, but it'd take 3 pendulums 3 turns to get out a bond and 3 for a queen, while it'd only take 3 turns for pillars. Pendulums and pillars are the same when it comes to quanta control. It's really up to you which you prefer.