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staller deck(entropy) help me improving it! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24125.msg308177#msg308177
« on: April 08, 2011, 02:07:17 pm »
i need to improve my staller deck.
has anyone got ideas?
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Re: staller deck(entropy) help me improving it! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24125.msg308250#msg308250
« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2011, 04:22:15 pm »
i need to improve my staller deck.
has anyone got ideas?
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Just so ppl will help you, insert the deck. What's the mark?
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Re: staller deck(entropy) help me improving it! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24125.msg308404#msg308404
« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2011, 08:21:43 pm »
first up you have to many cards. This means you are bound to get bad draws, which is never good. So really you dont need the choas seed as you have pandemonium, you could get more pandemoniums if you wanted as well.

 And if reducing the size to much worrys you put in an eternity and a photon. This would mean you might have to use some quantam pillars instead of all those pendulums. This would also help if the other player got their own discord out before you got your shields out as your quanta wil already be spread slightly more so you wont lose as much entropy quanta.

Re: staller deck(entropy) help me improving it! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24125.msg310506#msg310506
« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2011, 04:07:58 pm »
thx for the replys, i got a dissipiation field too and i think i dont need the miracles and the steals.
then i dont need the quantum pillars either.

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Re: staller deck(entropy) help me improving it! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24125.msg310528#msg310528
« Reply #4 on: April 12, 2011, 05:29:14 pm »
There are many ways to build an entropy stall - it all depends on what you want to do. Do you want to simply deck your opponents out? Or do you want to have a chance of killing them too?

A mono entropy stall for pure deckout. Chaos seeds and Pandas are exchangeable for Antimatters - but keep in mind the cost of antimatter is 8 :entropy, which is a lot: 24 damage blocked. You can even increase the size as there are many decks in PvP1 that have more than 40 cards. However, this will give you more bad draws.
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If you want to have another win condition, you might want to include a bit of damage.  Dragons, a few discords if you want to keep it mono. This will put pressure on your opponent, which is a good thing. However, this will decrease your stall effectiveness, as dragons cost a lot of quanta. An example (though you would have to be careful with your quanta spending against a good opponent, and it doesn't have as much creature control):
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Another interesting option is to splash in another element with your mark. You can either include more creature control (Lightnings, for example) or some damage to your opponent. Examples:
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Bolt-type spells are also effective with Dissipation shield, although you will have less quanta to defend with. It is an interesting deck, nonetheless. I'd build something like this (don't be afraid to use the bolts as creature control if the situation requires it):
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Huh.. I might have got a bit carried away, but I hope it helps at least a bit. :)



Re: staller deck(entropy) help me improving it! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24125.msg311698#msg311698
« Reply #5 on: April 14, 2011, 02:26:33 pm »
thanks a lot, for the replies.
im trying out this deck:
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i won many games with it, freeze and shockwave perfectly fit together, with just 1 :water/ 2 :air  ;D
in a long game, to win with full health, i just throw in my miracle and then drain health.
 

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Re: staller deck(entropy) help me improving it! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24125.msg312334#msg312334
« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2011, 05:53:44 pm »
why so many dissipation shields? if its to counter cards like pulvy and disintegrate then thats ok but otherwise its way too many, you could replace them with better cards.

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Re: staller deck(entropy) help me improving it! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24125.msg312337#msg312337
« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2011, 06:03:54 pm »
You have to draw them in time.

 

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