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Spine Carapace + Alfatoxin + Condor idea for FG farming https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7058.msg76117#msg76117
« on: May 27, 2010, 08:08:55 pm »
I'm working on this idea, but now balance is one of decks problems. Idea is use Spine Carapace as effective creature control (=kind otyugh's replacement) and sametime utilize alfatoxin (upgraded Spine Carapace don't kill cell's). Eventually Condor take care of FG's health "problems" (permanent solution for temporary problems).

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At this point I don't have any good idea how improve this deck - so brainstorming is more than welcome help. If this idea just sucks tell me (with reasoning). Deck is big, so if you can make it smaller and/or much better...

miniwally

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Re: Spine Carapace + Alfatoxin + Condor idea for FG farming https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7058.msg76148#msg76148
« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2010, 09:03:28 pm »
wouldn't it be better to let the carapace kill the cells so condor gets more attack (75% poisoned and your shards will keep you healed + they'll keep duplicating for more attack)

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Re: Spine Carapace + Alfatoxin + Condor idea for FG farming https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7058.msg76167#msg76167
« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2010, 09:53:58 pm »
I'd suggest:
Downgrade the Thorn Carapace - Better to kill the cells than to block them
-1 Animated Weapon - Not really useful
+1 Grey nymph or +2 Aflatoxin - Once you kill the cells you'll need more
+1 Condor - Double you damage
-3 Time Factories - Don't need that many
+1 Feral Bond - 2x healing
+1 Fallen Druid - Mutate your cells
+1 Unstopable - For the other Condor
+1 Quintessence - For the fallen Druid
-1 Mirror Sheild - Useless in this deck
-1 Improved Fog - Usefull, but there are better sheilds (Dusk mantle)
+1 Bonewall - Great combo leaves you untouchable, but you can opt for a Dusk Mantle if you don't want to leave the opponents field open

^^Those are the changes I would make, you may have a different playstyle so test out each option and find what works best for you^^

Qohelet

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Re: Spine Carapace + Alfatoxin + Condor idea for FG farming https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7058.msg76177#msg76177
« Reply #3 on: May 27, 2010, 10:07:47 pm »
wouldn't it be better to let the carapace kill the cells so condor gets more attack (75% poisoned and your shards will keep you healed + they'll keep duplicating for more attack)
Idea is wait until FGs side is filled with cells, then improved plague kill cells/few creatures (rewind one just before plague). Alfatoxin is mostly for damage control, but maybe it's not that important card. If I use unupgraded shield, I must always play alfatoxin before shield (and wait few turns). I think it's bad idea and very luck depend.

One way to make cell factory is using unstoppable to first cell (in case unupgraded shield shines).

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Re: Spine Carapace + Alfatoxin + Condor idea for FG farming https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7058.msg76487#msg76487
« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2010, 01:34:08 pm »
Idea is wait until FGs side is filled with cells, then improved plague kill cells/few creatures (rewind one just before plague). Alfatoxin is mostly for damage control, but maybe it's not that important card. If I use unupgraded shield, I must always play alfatoxin before shield (and wait few turns). I think it's bad idea and very luck depend.

One way to make cell factory is using unstoppable to first cell (in case unupgraded shield shines).
I am trying to work with Aflatoxin as well;  wouldn't a Rain of Fire/Fire Storm work better?  By the time you fill the FG side up, you should have plenty of Fire Quanta.

hrmmm

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Re: Spine Carapace + Alfatoxin + Condor idea for FG farming https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7058.msg76564#msg76564
« Reply #5 on: May 28, 2010, 05:42:42 pm »
I am trying to work with Aflatoxin as well;  wouldn't a Rain of Fire/Fire Storm work better?  By the time you fill the FG side up, you should have plenty of Fire Quanta.
thunderstorm is even better for this object.

the main problem i see, is to get the aflotoxin as early as possible.

finkel

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Re: Spine Carapace + Alfatoxin + Condor idea for FG farming https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7058.msg77681#msg77681
« Reply #6 on: May 29, 2010, 11:03:47 pm »
What about this strategy:
Fill enemy's side with cells, if you don't have enough healing, use skull buckler or mirror shield to prevent damage. Then, when you have the quanta, play vultures, bone wall, and thunderstorm all the cells. You could get 53 bonewall and 23 vultures this way. Your opponent has no chance to break through the wall, and even if he plays 7 creatures, he'll still be dead in a few turns.

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Re: Spine Carapace + Alfatoxin + Condor idea for FG farming https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7058.msg78942#msg78942
« Reply #7 on: May 31, 2010, 06:56:23 pm »
What about this strategy:
Fill enemy's side with cells, if you don't have enough healing, use skull buckler or mirror shield to prevent damage. Then, when you have the quanta, play vultures, bone wall, and thunderstorm all the cells. You could get 53 bonewall and 23 vultures this way. Your opponent has no chance to break through the wall, and even if he plays 7 creatures, he'll still be dead in a few turns.
Meet Gemini. TU + Momentum + TU + TU + TU = your death.

About the deck:
Looks like you need to add :
Bone Wall
More Aflatoxin
Less Bonewall
More Condor/Fractal
Change Plague to Lightning Storm/Unstable Gas
Less Pillars

 

anything
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