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Speedbow help https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14346.msg181719#msg181719
« on: October 22, 2010, 12:20:07 pm »
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Re: Speedbow help https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14346.msg181881#msg181881
« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2010, 04:56:32 pm »
It seems to be lacking muscle power.
Try 2 gargoyles for dark, 2 mummies for death, 2 cockatri for life and add a pillar. Gives you a bit more strength and resistance to CC (especially firestorm, which annihalates most of your creatures)
You could probably replace the precognition, as I don't think 1 will be very useful in most games.

Upgrades would be alot helpful with some of these cards, but I'm going on the assumption that you currently can't afford them, so that is something to work to in the future.

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Re: Speedbow help https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14346.msg181942#msg181942
« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2010, 05:55:24 pm »
It seems to be lacking muscle power.
Try 2 gargoyles for dark, 2 mummies for death, 2 cockatri for life and add a pillar. Gives you a bit more strength and resistance to CC (especially firestorm, which annihalates most of your creatures)
You could probably replace the precognition, as I don't think 1 will be very useful in most games.

Upgrades would be alot helpful with some of these cards, but I'm going on the assumption that you currently can't afford them, so that is something to work to in the future.
Thanks, I'll try those.
Any other suggestions?

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Re: Speedbow help https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14346.msg183929#msg183929
« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2010, 10:48:29 pm »
I have made some changes, now it looks like this:
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Re: Speedbow help https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14346.msg184073#msg184073
« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2010, 01:26:08 am »
Shards are useless in any rush; they'll just slow you down, like you stated. I'd recommend you put switch the two shards for Wings and the mummy for a discord. I'd also recommend you model after the Winged Speed Bow:
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,9001.0.html

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Re: Speedbow help https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14346.msg184082#msg184082
« Reply #5 on: October 25, 2010, 01:35:19 am »
Do you think shards are a good idea? They might help me survive sometimes, but they could also slow the deck down.
It's not really worth the deck space if you're just farming AI3 with it. You'll want to maximize your speed instead. If you still want EMs, drop the SoGs, the Cockatrices, and a Gargoyle in favour of 3 Improved Heals, a Precognition, and a Vampire Dagger.

The quanta usage still needs a bit more fine-tuning -- using 4-7 quanta of each type (other than in Entropy) is about right.

:entropy, :death, :gravity, :earth, :fire, :water, :life, and :light are fairly balanced.
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Re: Speedbow help https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14346.msg184369#msg184369
« Reply #6 on: October 25, 2010, 12:00:32 pm »
This is what I look for in a speedbow (this is the one I am currently using). Most cards can be played off 1 or 2 supernovas, no play or ability cost clash and 2 copies of each to increase chance of drawing. Also a mix of power/cost, so even without supernovas you have a chance to play a weaker creature while you wait.
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Good chance to beat any top 50 deck, although you should watch out for armoured otyugh feeding frenzies, but switching out the pegasi for morningstar/glory will counter this.
Whatever works for you is good though.

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Re: Speedbow help https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14346.msg184374#msg184374
« Reply #7 on: October 25, 2010, 12:16:04 pm »
This is what I have now.
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Re: Speedbow help https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14346.msg185707#msg185707
« Reply #8 on: October 27, 2010, 01:14:11 am »
personally, i like adding bit of control in to speedbows. 1 steal and/or deflag to destroy shields maybe?
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Re: Speedbow help https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14346.msg185774#msg185774
« Reply #9 on: October 27, 2010, 02:11:01 am »
personally, i like adding bit of control in to speedbows. 1 steal and/or deflag to destroy shields maybe?
This is what I have now.
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There is a deflag in there.

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Re: Speedbow help https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14346.msg187179#msg187179
« Reply #10 on: October 28, 2010, 09:12:19 pm »
This is what I have now.
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I would replace the wings with an ice shield or thorn carapace. I would also take out the precognition and add another mummy.  :D

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Re: Speedbow help https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14346.msg187183#msg187183
« Reply #11 on: October 28, 2010, 09:15:15 pm »
This is what I have now.
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4sa 4sa 4sa 4vh 52t 590 590 5c0 5c0 5f6 5fa 5ie 5lb 5og 5oo 5rr 5ur 5uv 620 620 6qq 6qq 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 713 745Thanks for all the advice guys.
I would replace the wings with an ice shield or thorn carapace. I would also take out the precognition and add another mummy.  :D
my bad i didn't see it  :)) aside from that, looks good, you know besides the unupped cards  :P but that  can be fixed with time
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