Speed deck for farming AI

[harpoonedfish]

@scaredgirl:
Don't be ignorant. I understand you're just trying to help him, but his deck obviously isn't supposed to function like a rainbow deck. He only uses quantum pillars so he doesn't have to fill his deck up with 4 pillars, and all his creatures cost so little quantum that it can work.
His deck is for SPEED not for quality. He even said that its meant for only lvl 3. Which can be beaten easily and consistently with a 'mono-fide' starter deck.


('mono-fide' = starter deck with only cards of the mark you have in it)

[icewolf35]

http://elementsthegame.wikia.com/wiki/No-Land_Stompy is a fun deck with a similar concept. It's probably even less reliable than this deck, but it's really fun to calculate how to maximize damage per turn with no pillars at all. And it kills really fast as well. If you don't want the risk of going pillar-less, you could still consider swapping in 1-2 Lava Golem and 1-2 Forest Sprite, just so you're not completely hosed if the Quantum Pillars give you other colors.

[LetsGo]

Ive had 100 something wins and 2 losses so far, and each game takes 1-2 minutes. (only play lvl 3, no pvp or t50, youll prolly get ownt).
Prety efficent, and cheap.

[LetsGo]

This deck costs > 1000 coins. Good for repeteadly killing lvl 3 AI quickly for coins. One game would last less than 3 minutes.

6 lycanthrope
6 garboid
6 novas
12 quantum pillars
replace novas and pillars with other cards (notably, steals) if you want- just be careful.

Use this deck to get money quick for your main deck

[Motion]

Enough decks with more efficiency then this deck.

[Scaredgirl]

You have the same problem a lot of rainbow deck have - you are not using all elements.

Think about it. You have tons of different quantum that you are not using. If you had even ONE card from that element, ti would be basically free. But you don't have, so that quantum is wasted.

When designing rainbow, you can't just take a bunch of cards that look cool. You really need to think and use math to determine and balance out your quantum usage.

Here is my version of this kind of deck: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=232.msg1687#msg1687 (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=232.msg1687#msg1687)

Try it. you will see why having all the colors of the rainbow is much more efficient.

[brain9h]

All we need is love

[Chival]

your much better off sticking with mono for speed ai3 grinding.

2-3 minutes really? check out my or skillgannon's decks on the mono forums. games take about 45-75 seconds

speed and rainbow shouldnt be in the same sentence, because they are too unreliable quanta wise early game.

[Chival]

speed and rainbow shouldnt be in the same sentence, because they are too unreliable quanta wise early game.

I disagree. To get your rainbow fast, all you need to do is..

1. Take 6 Supernovas
2. Take 6-7 Quantum Towers
3. Take 1-3 cheap damage cards from all elements so that the combined cost of these cards are about the same
4. Limit your deck size to 30.

When you do this, your rainbow deck will be very fast because..

1. Supernovas balance out quantum production
2. All the cards are cheap, therefore you can usually play them immediately.

Also this way the luck element is very small because you won't get too many cards from same element and can play whatever cards you are dealt.

if your using all cheap cards your not going to kill as fast as a mono speed deck. By fast i mean how fast it kills, not how fast you play cards. My mono red deck kills in 7-10 turns against maxwell/devour decks, 5 turns on everything else

[Daxx]

I have this deck floating around - it predates Scaredgirl's by some way (and the Sundial/Bonewall deck tech), but is built for PVP whereas hers which is built for the slightly longer haul against the Gods. I think it does a decent job at being a speedy rainbow deck, if such a thing exists.

Mark of Time
11 Quantum Tower

6 Nova
4 Improved Steal
1 Eternity

1 Werewolf
1 Forest Spirit    
1 Lava Golem    
1 Mind Flayer    
1 Bloodsucker    
1 Graviton Firemaster    
1 Elite Graboid    
1 Elite Queen

This is what Scaredgirl was talking about in using as many elements as possible. Those creatures are from a swathe of different elements, and their activated abilities for the most part are spread out too (and, importantly for a speed deck, different to their own type). It's also cut down to 30 cards; whilst you might not want to do that regularly with a Rainbow deck with this one it's important for getting everything out as quickly as possible. I would be tempted to run an Electrum Hourglass in there, but I'm not sure what I would remove and the deck is already strained for Time. It could also do with a little bit more creature control, but it usually outruns anything short of a mono-fire deck anyway.

EDIT: But yes, to echo Scaredgirl's sentiments: your deck isn't very good. It isn't anywhere near as fast as a mono-fire deck, it won't be getting many masteries (so it's not great for grinding), it falls over and dies to anything with decent creature control, and it isn't anywhere near a rainbow deck in terms of flexibility.

[harpoonedfish]

i think i'm awesome

You aren't the master of elements. God forbid anyone disagree with you and prefer a different play style.
I understand your decks are very effective, and you DO understand how to play this game well, but you don't need to comment on EVERY post with "improvements." People play how they want to play. I'm sick of reading your posts with you trying to change everyones decks into your own deck.



on-topic:
His deck IS fast, just because its not as fast as other decks doesn't mean its not fast. Skillgannons and Chivals decks may be faster, but those require no thought. This is a fast deck that can keep you occupied. So relax.

All your guys suggestions make this a different deck. Rainbow decks with the same purpose are allowed to be different, alright.

[harpoonedfish]

Skillgannos and Chivals decks ARE fast and effective. I know this because I have tried them both and they work (although they are not rainbow like this one). Maybe you should also try these decks in question before you start ranting? Then you might actually know what you are talking about.

This is my last response for this thread, so our argument doesn't get TOO bad

I never put down skillgannon or chivals decks, as a matter of fact both of them say themselves that their decks require no thought... which is exactly what i said. I'm not ranting about their decks I'm ranting about your superiority complex.

I don't know what your deal is. I'm guessing you are a very young person with some weird ego issues who takes this deck building way too personally so I'll stop here and move on.

I'm the only egomaniac in this conversation? Either we both are or neither of us are, because you take offense just as quickly as myself.

Plus, you ONLY post in deck building threads, and i have NEVER read a post of encouragement from you. What i'm sick of from you is that EVERY single one of your posts are 'improvements' and put downs. I understand that you mean well, and that you are good at deck building, and even that most of the time you are offering improvements... but you're so stuck up about it that its annoying. Your decks have already been posted, so let other decks be posted too. LetsGo has access to these forums, obviously, so he already could have read the most efficient decks... this is HIS deck and he's posting it because he enjoys it and because he hopes others may too. If you want to use it and fit it to suite your play style then do that. You don't have to rip apart his deck. All of your recommendations literally change this ENTIRE deck. THAT is what i'm ranting about.


I am immature, i am egotistical, i make mistakes, and i certainly didn't take that tip you gave me to heart, because as i've already expressed... your tips are annoying.