EpiPest

[Gandora]

Hi everyone.

We all know the famous MitoDeVamp Combo. But I rarely (never) see a deck that uses EpiPest that refuses to rely on vampires.
So I made the following build:

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6rv 6rv 6rv 7ac 7ac 7am 7am 7an 7an 7an 7an 7an 7ap 7ap 7ap 7ap 7ap 7t6 7t6 7t6 7t6 7t6 7t6 7um 7um 7um 7um 7um 7um 7um 8pn

The deck is tight in early game for quanta. rarely is a problem. So maybe a better quanta balance could speed up the lock-down?
Since the field will be fueled with Pests it doesn't really matter when the SoP appears. More importantly is to make sure not to many enemy creatures hit the field.
Because in case of a late feral bond you might still dye. Also, early CC on pests with Mitosis can be a pain since it highly reduces your atk and heal power.
Probably a cloak could prevent that.

However, this is what I got so far. I'm interested how you'd improve this (especially in terms of speed and or endurance) and what your opinion about EpiPest is. Because regarding the denial, a EpiPest counts as 2 Pests and thus, not counting mitosis, I got 11 potential Pests in the deck. So the epi somehow decreases the need to wait for more Pests which doesn't seem bad imo.

[Laxadarap]

Hmm, not sure if it would help, but switch to darkness mark and life pends, 2 turns in and you can have a mitosised or epid pest, sacrificing the first turn denial.  May want to look into it, although I'm not sure how much more effective it would be.

[dragonsdemesne]

I'm not completely sure how to improve this, but it looks like it has some potential, and it's certainly a unique idea. 

[Captain Scibra]

Some Earth would be nice, perhaps a couple pends there.  When you unburrow a creature that has been developing with SoP while burrowed, it doubles the gain!

[Cheesy111]

The problem with Epi + Mitopest is that 90% of the time, it's better to play a Mitosis than an Epi.  Mitosis gives you an extra pest each turn for darkness quanta (which you have plenty of) while Epi is a one-time boost.  By the time you've used up all of your mito/pest combos and have the life quanta to spare, either your opponent is locked or you are dead.  That's why I would rather use Bonds in combination with mitopest if you would really like to avoid vampires.

[rickerd]

http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,31761.msg401725.html#msg401725
this was what I made

[Calindu]

http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,31761.msg401725.html#msg401725
this was what I made

I had to look 10 times, still doesn't seem close.
Anyway: Maybe an eclipse?

[TheAccuso]

i'd will say: + 1 green nymph; 2 eclipses; 1 cloak
                   -  1 epinephrine; 3 SoP.

[Gandora]

Hmm, not sure if it would help, but switch to darkness mark and life pends, 2 turns in and you can have a mitosised or epid pest, sacrificing the first turn denial.  May want to look into it, although I'm not sure how much more effective it would be.

Have you already made some tests? If yes, what is your conclusion? Otherwise, I'm gonna try it out myself.

I'm not completely sure how to improve this, but it looks like it has some potential, and it's certainly a unique idea. 

Thank you really much!

Some Earth would be nice, perhaps a couple pends there.  When you unburrow a creature that has been developing with SoP while burrowed, it doubles the gain!

I already know this. In fact there's a really cool deck by SnoWeb. You can find most variations of it in  the comments of this thread. I might give it a try though if I don't think it'd ruin the quanta balance.

The problem with Epi + Mitopest is that 90% of the time, it's better to play a Mitosis than an Epi.  Mitosis gives you an extra pest each turn for darkness quanta (which you have plenty of) while Epi is a one-time boost.  By the time you've used up all of your mito/pest combos and have the life quanta to spare, either your opponent is locked or you are dead.  That's why I would rather use Bonds in combination with mitopest if you would really like to avoid vampires.

Good input. The same thing passed my mind but the idea was too mainstream in my opinion. A nice advantage in early game of Epi, other than mitosis, is that you don't have a one turn delay to use the skill. Though, as said, it's an advantage for the early game where you still don't have many pests. Another nice thing with Epi is that if you destroy SoP when the pests with epi got 3 or 7 atk you might not have to wait as long to win.

http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,31761.msg401725.html#msg401725
this was what I made

So there were EpiPest decks! I didn't find them xD They look good. I guess I'd have built something similar before SoP came out but probably with some mitosis. In fact I like having Epi and Mito in the deck.

i'd will say: + 1 green nymph; 2 eclipses; 1 cloak
                   -  1 epinephrine; 3 SoP.

I also thought about a Nymph but wasn't sure if it wasn't too expensive. Gonna give it a try and edit this comment after some testing