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Anti CC/PC https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34410.msg434343#msg434343
« on: December 03, 2011, 09:18:41 am »
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I found the original deck in a dead post by infugleo from May 2010.

The theme i wanted was anti control and after a few tweaks this is where i am at. Hope is immo, fireflies build hope, anubis makes them all immo, quints for anubis for those cc heavy days (like today for me). EA the sanc's to fight quant denial. i dont have an eternity in there becuase i dont have any but becuase of how long it takes to get moving it needs one so you dont deck out waiting for your damage to build up.

Its not for em's and its not supposed to be fast but i would like to get the setup going a little quicker and am open to suggestions.

FYI i am trying to keep it unnupped as i have only a few uppd (including a set of 4 hourglasses), but uppd suggestions give me something to strive for.

Edit: New posts are missing the changes already made so i am adding the revised version so far in the OP.
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Re: Anti CC/PC https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34410.msg434345#msg434345
« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2011, 09:22:19 am »
-1 Anubis, +1 Eternity
If you don't have eternity then remove that photon.
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Re: Anti CC/PC https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34410.msg434361#msg434361
« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2011, 10:55:55 am »
Also I may have missed something but you'll lack quanta to het all those queen, or maybe you play 3 only to make sure you'll draw one ? also I'll remove 1 quint to add an hourglass and I agree with calin.
Moreover I don't like those  nova they'll just screw the mulligan and as your deck is meant to be slow I'd had more pillar instead.

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Re: Anti CC/PC https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34410.msg434376#msg434376
« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2011, 11:51:34 am »
Not really sure if you're using the Enchant Artifacts for the pillars or the Sancs.

Also, I wouldn't even use Sancs. Why not use some Empathic Bonds?
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Re: Anti CC/PC https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34410.msg434380#msg434380
« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2011, 11:59:20 am »
Because this deck gives a lot of light quanta which stay unused ? because this deck use a lot of life quanta for the queen ? both IMO :)
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Re: Anti CC/PC https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34410.msg434382#msg434382
« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2011, 12:02:50 pm »
Because this deck gives a lot of light quanta which stay unused ? because this deck use a lot of life quanta for the queen ? both IMO :)
I can see that.. but you're going to get a better payout for hp with the bond aren't you? There are a lot of pillars there so maybe there's another way to use an element that's going to waste.
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Re: Anti CC/PC https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34410.msg434396#msg434396
« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2011, 12:56:01 pm »
yes for me it's better to add a light dragon and a fractal, switch mark to life and play 2/3 bond because they'll have amazing heal :)
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Re: Anti CC/PC https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34410.msg434404#msg434404
« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2011, 01:16:22 pm »
Maybe adding an Ulitharid is smart since this deck can't do much against momentum
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Re: Anti CC/PC https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34410.msg435085#msg435085
« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2011, 06:32:55 am »
I have the nova's in there becuase it is the only way i knew of to add garunteed quanta, 7 :air for the queens 8  :time for anubus 7 :light for hope and the randomness of the quanta production seemed like a good idea.

ill try swapping a quint for the hourglass.

The sanc's are for quanta denial via blackhole,devourers and not for healling. empathic bond will surpass sanc's healing but im depending on all my  :life to produce my fireflies.

the enchant artifacts are for protecting your towers and either the eternity that i am waiting for or the sanc's depending on the deck your facing.

if i add the life dragon/fractal then i am adding another combo onto the deck that won't even be possible until after i get my fireflies out.  The deck already does alot and adding that combo would take the deck in a different direction.

i like the idea of uldrid and could make a decent substitute until i win my eternity. With eternity i can just reverse momentumed creatures. ill swap out the photon for uldrid.

thanks for the advice guys, ill put her through the paces with an hourglass and uldrid and see how she does.

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Re: Anti CC/PC https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34410.msg435892#msg435892
« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2011, 04:05:09 am »
Here is the deck with the changes i posted last
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I've been pretty busy studying for my finals coming up and have only gotten through 30 games. Right now I am at a 50% win with all of my losses at or below 11 rounds and all of my wins at or above 12 rounds.

The big hang up i have noticed has been drawing the correct defense which by having so many different types of control is bound to happen. im going to finish the full 50 for accuracy but i have started thinking that i could use sundials to help by the time i need to draw. My hand tends to fill up after the initial round due to the average high cost in the deck so i wont be able to take advantage of the draw extra card very often but based on my preliminary results having an extra 2 rounds of stall should increase the win ratio. maybe bumping it up to 40 cards with 2 more pillars, 2 more novas, and 6 sundials?

SIDEBAR: I may not be searching the forum correctly, but raluof mentioned  "...I don't like those  nova they'll just screw the mulligan...", how do the nova's do that?

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Re: Anti CC/PC https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34410.msg435895#msg435895
« Reply #10 on: December 07, 2011, 04:38:22 am »
+hope? + miracle? Use a mark of air? 2 anubis+3 quints is overkill for anti-CC. EAs aren't that useful, and the photon is completely useless.

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Re: Anti CC/PC https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34410.msg435936#msg435936
« Reply #11 on: December 07, 2011, 08:19:11 am »
xD I didn't even nticed that useless photon, just passing here to say hello :)
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