Selling/Keeping cards!

[MystiK_]

Good day peoples.
I wasn't 100% where to post this thread but ill just put it here.
I'm kinda in a pickle where i want to get a Instosis deck as quick as I can for farming but im lacking a bit of money right now.
At this moment i have 27915 electrum with 380 cards not in use. 6 are upgraded cards. Two Nymphs.
Should i sell all my idle cards? Or keep them for deck building later on?
Im currently using a Graboid Rainbow deck which is working out very well for me.
So please help me make up my mind.
Thanks!:]

[zhangvict]

Noooo! Don't sell your unupgraded cards unless you have more of 12 of them!! And DEFINITELY DONT SELL UR NYMPHS. Grabboid rainbow is only good for a specific purpose of farming the bronze arena. Who knows maybe tomorrow you want to try another deck and end up buying back the cards you sold and wasted money?

Refer to this thread for money management: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,27551.0.html

28k electrum is an excellent amount of money. It is enough to use to make a partially-upped instosis deck. You only need to up the Supernovas, Silurian dragon, and electrum hourglasses for it to be effective enough to start farming false gods. That is 11 cards at the cost of 17k. If I were you I would also up the 6 time towers, making it 17 cards for 26k.

If you do not upgrade the shards of readiness, I recommend you only use 3 shards and replace the 4th with a parallel universe to prevent your air quanta from dissapearing. Actually I'd recommend all beginners to do this, since 3 shards requires less grinding than 4.


EDIT: How did you get 28k electrum with just grabboid deck? If you farmed AI3 that much have taken ages..

[MystiK_]

Ahhh okay.
Thanks very very much for your input 
Yeah ive sold like 3 excessive cards and accidentally sold some weapons (2 Stars/Titans/Upgraded Owl's Eye) :3
I still need 2 shards before an instosis deck.
Graboid Rainbow deck is absolutely amazing haha, out of like my past 100 PvP's ive won 95 of them using that deck.
And 78-3 in bronze. :3
Unfortuantely ive already sold a heap of upgraded cards.
I used to use a fractal/dev/vamp deck but now ive realised its too slow for farming.

[furballdn]

Supernovas are useful in a lot of decks. You can use them for instosis or your rainbow.

[MystiK_]

I cant use SN for my Graboid Rainbow cos it isnt fast enough.
Grabbow for me is getting 1-3 units on the first turn and growing them on the second with a large damage output.
Ive decided to just upgrade around 17 cards for Instosis then farm the FG's.
Or should i wait for all 4 shards instead of 3 and get 45000 electrum for a fully upped deck?

[furballdn]

I cant use SN for my Graboid Rainbow cos it isnt fast enough.
Grabbow for me is getting 1-3 units on the first turn and growing them on the second with a large damage output.
Ive decided to just upgrade around 17 cards for Instosis then farm the FG's.
Or should i wait for all 4 shards instead of 3 and get 45000 electrum for a fully upped deck?

Isn't fast enough? Eh....It's debatable. You're trading early speed for extreme quanta and speed later. The gains of supernova compared to nova are nearly double and you can pack in way more expensive and better rainbow cards to supplement the graboids with. If you want a fast graboid out, you could also consider a PSNbow with an earth mark.

[zhangvict]

Or should i wait for all 4 shards instead of 3 and get 45000 electrum for a fully upped deck?

I would go ahead with the 3 shards. That's what I did. 3 shard and 4 shard versions each have their own advantages and disadvantages. 4 shard is better against false gods who don't need chimera, which is a lot of them, but 3 shard is better against gods who do need chimera, making it more consistent against all false gods in general.

Also, the 4 shard version required 20 random quanta unupped, while the 15 shard version requires 15. If you are not planning to upgrade your shards or skyblitz, I recommend the 3 shard version to stop the shards from sucking your air quanta and making you lose.

Upped, 4 shard requires 12 random quanta and 3 shard requires 9, which is less of a difference.

However, Instosis is so fast that even if you start with a partially upped version, you can finish upgrading your entire deck in one day. Maybe you can first use the 3 shard version, finish upgrading the rest of your deck, farm the arena for the 4th shard, and then use the 4 shard version.

Unfortuantely ive already sold a heap of upgraded cards.

How did you get lots of upgraded cards with just a grabboid bow? Were you farming false gods with it lol?

[MystiK_]

I cant use SN for my Graboid Rainbow cos it isnt fast enough.
Grabbow for me is getting 1-3 units on the first turn and growing them on the second with a large damage output.
Ive decided to just upgrade around 17 cards for Instosis then farm the FG's.
Or should i wait for all 4 shards instead of 3 and get 45000 electrum for a fully upped deck?

Isn't fast enough? Eh....It's debatable. You're trading early speed for extreme quanta and speed later. The gains of supernova compared to nova are nearly double and you can pack in way more expensive and better rainbow cards to supplement the graboids with. If you want a fast graboid out, you could also consider a PSNbow with an earth mark.

Ohhh okay ill definitely try it out :]
Thanks for that!

Or should i wait for all 4 shards instead of 3 and get 45000 electrum for a fully upped deck?

I would go ahead with the 3 shards. That's what I did. 3 shard and 4 shard versions each have their own advantages and disadvantages. 4 shard is better against false gods who don't need chimera, which is a lot of them, but 3 shard is better against gods who do need chimera, making it more consistent against all false gods in general.

Also, the 4 shard version required 20 random quanta unupped, while the 15 shard version requires 15. If you are not planning to upgrade your shards or skyblitz, I recommend the 3 shard version to stop the shards from sucking your air quanta and making you lose.

Upped, 4 shard requires 12 random quanta and 3 shard requires 9, which is less of a difference.

However, Instosis is so fast that even if you start with a partially upped version, you can finish upgrading your entire deck in one day. Maybe you can first use the 3 shard version, finish upgrading the rest of your deck, farm the arena for the 4th shard, and then use the 4 shard version.

Unfortuantely ive already sold a heap of upgraded cards.

How did you get lots of upgraded cards with just a grabboid bow? Were you farming false gods with it lol?

So now i just need 1 more SoR.
Keep getting weps in special spins >.<

And i got like 12 upgraded dark cards from PvP's, AI4 Upgraded card spins and i forgot the other method haha.

[MystiK_]

I cant use SN for my Graboid Rainbow cos it isnt fast enough.
Grabbow for me is getting 1-3 units on the first turn and growing them on the second with a large damage output.
Ive decided to just upgrade around 17 cards for Instosis then farm the FG's.
Or should i wait for all 4 shards instead of 3 and get 45000 electrum for a fully upped deck?

Isn't fast enough? Eh....It's debatable. You're trading early speed for extreme quanta and speed later. The gains of supernova compared to nova are nearly double and you can pack in way more expensive and better rainbow cards to supplement the graboids with. If you want a fast graboid out, you could also consider a PSNbow with an earth mark.

Oh and i was wondering, whats PSNBow? :p
And could you possibly post a deck i could use with SN that is similar to Grabbow? Much appreciated x)

[zhangvict]

And i got like 12 upgraded dark cards from PvP's, AI4 Upgraded card spins and i forgot the other method haha.

I thought you can't spin upgraded cards from PvP, like if the opoment has upgraded cards, only the upgraded version will appear in the slot machine.

[furballdn]

I cant use SN for my Graboid Rainbow cos it isnt fast enough.
Grabbow for me is getting 1-3 units on the first turn and growing them on the second with a large damage output.
Ive decided to just upgrade around 17 cards for Instosis then farm the FG's.
Or should i wait for all 4 shards instead of 3 and get 45000 electrum for a fully upped deck?

Isn't fast enough? Eh....It's debatable. You're trading early speed for extreme quanta and speed later. The gains of supernova compared to nova are nearly double and you can pack in way more expensive and better rainbow cards to supplement the graboids with. If you want a fast graboid out, you could also consider a PSNbow with an earth mark.

Oh and i was wondering, whats PSNBow? :p
And could you possibly post a deck i could use with SN that is similar to Grabbow? Much appreciated x)

A SNbow is basically a rainbow deck, except with SNs and QTs, it's able to run much more expensive and powerful cards. In an unupped rainbow, you should generally use around 2-3 of each quanta. With SNs, you can use up to 5-6 of each quanta.

Here is a SNbow I just randomly, quickly threw together.

by furballdn

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6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6u2 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 713 713 745 77g 77g 7ae 7ae 7dm 7dm 7dm 7gm 7ju 7n7 7n7 7q5 7tb 7tb 80g 8pj

A PSNbow is a deck that uses entropy pendulums to get SNs out faster. The downside, is that it cuts down on the quanta you get, so that usually means you should use around 4 of each quanta besides entropy and your mark.

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6tt 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6ve 6ve 6ve 6ve 6ve 713 77g 77g 77g 77g 7ae 7ae 7dm 7ds 7gm 7jq 7n0 7n0 7qb 7qb 7tb 7tb 80g 8pm

(badly made PSNbow since I don't know how to make them)

I don't think I really did a good job of showing how SNbows are, but generally, in SNbows, you can run really expensive creatures or spells such as TU, archangel, elite charger, lava destroyer, and others whereas you wouldn't have that much quanta and speed in an unupped rainbow.




Also, you can't spin upped cards from PvP, only place you can spin upped are H-Bs, FGs, and gold/plat arena special spin.

[MystiK_]

Thanks for the decks but i cant really make a fully upped deck :/
Saving up for Instosis!
Im trying to make a deck with 6 SN's but its a bit hard