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Need help. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20070.msg254572#msg254572
« on: January 22, 2011, 09:54:38 pm »
xKelvevra's Fastest Unupped Mono Death AI3 Grinder (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,10503.0.html) is what I based this on. The origin of the unupped grinder is actually good at T50 grinding - gotten over 30 rares over the past day. Then I upped a mummy, threw in some dark for extra health/damage, and added a SoG.

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Thoughts? Comments? Suggestions?

Comments I will ignore:
Dropping it to thirty.

In Progress:
Upping everything.

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Re: Need help. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20070.msg254580#msg254580
« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2011, 10:10:19 pm »
the poison is somewhat annoying to deal with, its not going to be your win. i suggest afflatoxin and boneyard for better CC. when he has all the Mcells, just have a skull shield and it should be good for grinding AI3 and a bit of T50. the bone yard is for obvious reasons( when his critters dies).

that my opinion, change your poison for 3 aflatoxins and 3 boneyards

maybe replace a mummy or 2 by a vulture or 2 because of the related death to aflatoxin.

if someone can say better, be my guess, im still not up to date with all the strategies.
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Re: Need help. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20070.msg254958#msg254958
« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2011, 05:55:19 am »
the poison is somewhat annoying to deal with, its not going to be your win. i suggest afflatoxin and boneyard for better CC. when he has all the Mcells, just have a skull shield and it should be good for grinding AI3 and a bit of T50. the bone yard is for obvious reasons( when his critters dies).

that my opinion, change your poison for 3 aflatoxins and 3 boneyards

maybe replace a mummy or 2 by a vulture or 2 because of the related death to aflatoxin.

if someone can say better, be my guess, im still not up to date with all the strategies.
maybe im just talking through my hat here
That sorta changes the entire playstyle...

First of all, the link you put leads to MrBlonde's mono death rush, who, last time I checked, wasn't xKelevra. Anyways, back on topic.

It might do well to use :darkness to its fullest potential:
+Liquid Shadow
This card has a dual purpose: it can lobo a creature, and also give it vampire. this can be very useful when trying to get EMs. You can use it on your dragons for some extra health, and will ultimately benefit you in the end.

+Steal
One man's treasure is now yours. using this, you can steal one of your opponent's beloved permanents, and make your life a bit easier.

+Nightmare
This card is arguably one of the most annoying cards to face against: it fills your opponent's hand with whatever creature you wish to target, meaning they have a bunch of cards they can't play, or they're so high cost that a great many of them will still act as dead cards in their hand.

Of the 3 cards I just gave brief explanations about, I would like to really emphasize the first two, as they have a wonderful synergy with this deck. The Liquid Shadow on your Bone Dragon can heal up to 55 damage each, and the Steal can make some of the most annoying shields to face yours.

I would suggest that if you do add these cards in, you switch out some more :death pillars for :darkness pendulums, as you will be using a lot more :darkness quanta.

Upgrading:
Normally, pillars are a good choice to do first when it comes to upgrading. You get your quanta faster, and that way, you get more cards out. I would suggest, however, that your nightfalls are upgraded first: when upgraded, these cards give +2/+1, which means extra damage for each of your creatures.
After that would probably be pillars and pendulums to whatever extent.
Next, I would think Vampire Stiletto. It does an extra 2 damage, and that's free healing as well.
I'm not really sure what's after that, but I don't really wanna think because it's 1AM at the moment.

If you're taking cards out for the :darkness cards, I would suggest taking out 2-3 poisons and maybe a mummy or 2.

At the moment, you have 72 :death being used, 3 random, and 3 :darkness being used (given the fact that you only need to play Nightfall and Stiletto once). With 6 :darkness pendulums, you don't have very balanced quanta usage there. If you don't like the above additions, you could add parasites for some creature control, getting rid of some enemy creatures and using up both :death and :darkness.

Hope this helps.  ;D

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Re: Need help. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20070.msg254960#msg254960
« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2011, 06:04:57 am »
Aflatoxin is WAY too slow for this deck.

I'd say switch your mark to :darkness and lose some pendulums (switch remaining pendulums to :death) might make it more reliable.

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Re: Need help. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20070.msg254962#msg254962
« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2011, 06:10:13 am »
I have to agree with ratchet here, although a lone SoG in this deck is completely pointless.


Heres my take on it keeping it's rush stand point. (Yes, I know you will ignore this because it's a "drop it to 30" suggestion, but meh.)
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Probably too many pends also, so yeah...... maybe -2 pends +1 tower +1 dagger. Also, if your looking to upgrade this kind of deck, upgrade flesh recluses and switch each unupped mummy for an upgraded recluse (better damage for same cost).
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Re: Need help. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20070.msg255225#msg255225
« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2011, 03:51:05 pm »
Wynden....xKelvra asked MrBlonde to post it. He gets credit in all aspects, and if you see, MrBlonde says he didn't make it.

But yeah, TNG's idea is the best probably - too bad I'm a dumbass and accidentally sold my stillettos.

So..yeah. Thanks!

 

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